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re: Trump going after social conservatives again

Posted on 1/2/23 at 11:59 am to
Posted by Mid Iowa Tiger
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Posted on 1/2/23 at 11:59 am to
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The majority of abortions are "miscarriage."



Natural miscarriage is not an abortion. Yes there is a DNC performed after the fact. As a post-miscarriage father I was there for that. Huge difference.

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The majority of induced abortions are by pill.



Oh, since only some abortion result in the dismemberment of the child we should be ok with that?



Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
298326 posts
Posted on 1/2/23 at 12:03 pm to
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They want it to be celebrated in the popular culture.


Women in general.

They lack self esteem and only feel good about themselves if the majority agrees with them.

On the flip side, they're simple to convert as they're the most prone to propaganda.
Posted by NC_Tigah
Make Orwell Fiction Again
Member since Sep 2003
138585 posts
Posted on 1/2/23 at 12:04 pm to
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Abortion is a ballot loser for Republicans and he knows it.
Negative.
The vast, vast majority of the country is opposed to elective late-term abortion. Most of the country was supportive of the Mississippi/Dobbs position.

However, the vast majority of the country is not supportive of "no exceptions" laws. That's Trump's point, and that is where prolife zealots jump the shark.
Posted by NC_Tigah
Make Orwell Fiction Again
Member since Sep 2003
138585 posts
Posted on 1/2/23 at 12:05 pm to
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Oh, since only some abortion result in the dismemberment of the child we should be ok with that?
No.
Posted by AggieHank86
Texas
Member since Sep 2013
44345 posts
Posted on 1/2/23 at 12:08 pm to
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Oh, since only some abortion result in the dismemberment of the child we should be ok with that?
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No.

Have you noticed that so many of these people seem to believe that correction of their factual statements means that you disagree with everything that they have ever said?

“No, poster, the moon is not made of green cheese. We’ve actually sampled it.”

“So, then you think that late-term abortion is perfectly moral!”
This post was edited on 1/2/23 at 12:10 pm
Posted by oogabooga68
Member since Nov 2018
27194 posts
Posted on 1/2/23 at 12:18 pm to
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Have you noticed that so many of these people seem to believe that correction of their factual statements means that you disagree with everything that they have ever said?







Never step down off that cross, Hank.....

You're not paranoid, the world really IS out to get you.....
Posted by AggieHank86
Texas
Member since Sep 2013
44345 posts
Posted on 1/2/23 at 12:19 pm to
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Founding myths are fun. Now tell us about Romulus and Remus sucking on the tits of a wolf.
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HA! (cites Pagan heros) You know precious little about "mythology" -- actual or otherwise. Even LESS abut human nature.

I cited two equally-ridiculous “founding myths,“ because both of them are ridiculous.
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this nation was NEVER founded on pagan-groomer anarcho-tyrannical principles.
Congratulations, I did not think it was possible to jam that much meaningless jargon into one sentence.

Have you considered a career as a motivational speaker?
Posted by METAL
Member since Nov 2020
2368 posts
Posted on 1/2/23 at 12:21 pm to
Your conservative overlords are part of that 30T debt btw.
Posted by burger bearcat
Member since Oct 2020
10501 posts
Posted on 1/2/23 at 12:30 pm to
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Your conservative overlords are part of that 30T debt btw.


Are you implying that Mitch McConnell and the Bushes are conservatives?

There has been only a handful of real conservatives elected to Congress in my lifetime, and they were most certainly not a part of the debt issue.

I wanted Ron Paul. I wasn't old enough, but would have liked Pat Buchanan. I currently like Chip Roy, Paul Gosar, and Thomas Massie. There really aren't many good conservatives left or that have ever got any sort of power in a long time.
This post was edited on 1/2/23 at 12:33 pm
Posted by Liberator
Revelation 20:10-12
Member since Jul 2020
9071 posts
Posted on 1/2/23 at 12:31 pm to
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90% of our Anglo-American legal code involves a balancing of rights.


Sounds good. But wait a minute -- from exactly where do you believe our so-called legal "rights" are derived?

Will quotes from a handful of Founders suffice? (and to be clear -- by "Religion," they mean "Christianity.")

You've heard of FIRST US CHIEF JUSTICE, John Jay, Counselor?





Are you actually going to dismiss "Biblical" inspired values as driving force of morality and ethics of early America -- but also of Western Civ?
Posted by METAL
Member since Nov 2020
2368 posts
Posted on 1/2/23 at 12:32 pm to
Whatever you have to tell yourself to continue to justify you forcing your religion and beliefs on other people.
Posted by jimmy the leg
Member since Aug 2007
44156 posts
Posted on 1/2/23 at 12:34 pm to
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“So, then you think that late-term abortion is perfectly moral!”


Don’t you?

Posted by oogabooga68
Member since Nov 2018
27194 posts
Posted on 1/2/23 at 12:36 pm to
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Don’t you?


Hank is on record as supporting Eugenics.
Posted by burger bearcat
Member since Oct 2020
10501 posts
Posted on 1/2/23 at 12:36 pm to
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Whatever you have to tell yourself to continue to justify you forcing your religion and beliefs on other people.


Name me one of system of government in human history that did not push some form of morality into law.

All laws are based on morality. It is only a question where that morality derives from. Believe it or not, our Constitution was based on Christian values (our rights come from God).
Posted by burger bearcat
Member since Oct 2020
10501 posts
Posted on 1/2/23 at 12:36 pm to
Nm
This post was edited on 1/2/23 at 12:38 pm
Posted by 19
Flux Capacitor, Fluxing
Member since Nov 2007
35673 posts
Posted on 1/2/23 at 12:39 pm to
He's correct.
Nice melt, too.
Posted by Liberator
Revelation 20:10-12
Member since Jul 2020
9071 posts
Posted on 1/2/23 at 12:40 pm to
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Have you noticed that so many of these people seem to believe that correction of their factual statements means that you disagree with everything that they have ever said?


Ironic.... because you are THE master of the Red Herring.

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“No, poster, the moon is not made of green cheese. We’ve actually sampled it.”

“So, then you think that late-term abortion is perfectly moral!”


Ok, I laughed.

Doesn't change your inability and incapability to think tangentially beyond related, relevant subject matter (In your defense, it's a likely shortcoming as a result of your legal conditioning. What doesn't help your case hurts it. Ergo...whoooosh.)

Posted by Kreg Jennings
Parts Unknown
Member since Aug 2007
3963 posts
Posted on 1/2/23 at 12:42 pm to
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Trump has this weird, hard-core cadre of supporters that had never actually voted before Trump, and will never actually vote for anyone else. Not sure they're any better for the country than the average Democrat voter is.


Nailed it. Best articulation I’ve seen to date.
Posted by AggieHank86
Texas
Member since Sep 2013
44345 posts
Posted on 1/2/23 at 12:46 pm to
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Are you actually going to dismiss "Biblical" inspired values as driving force of morality and ethics of early America
No. Why would I do that?
Posted by AggieHank86
Texas
Member since Sep 2013
44345 posts
Posted on 1/2/23 at 12:47 pm to
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”So, then you think that late-term abortion is perfectly moral!”
quote:

Don’t you?

No.
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