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re: Trump going after social conservatives again
Posted on 1/2/23 at 1:24 pm to NC_Tigah
Posted on 1/2/23 at 1:24 pm to NC_Tigah
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There is so much misinformation on the topic. Folks on both sides occasionally argue in good faith not realizing the fallacy of their position.
True. But its mostly a matter of context, degree and misdirection and deception of the truth.
Bottom Line: One side also argues FOR Life; the other FOR Death. (the Devil is in the details -- on which this thread is based.)
The pro-Infanticide, pro-Baby Parts side -- for obvious reasons - MUST filter and control the message and damaging imagery (for instance, pro-baby exterminators have managed to codify the public images of mangled aborted fetuses and near full-term bloody messes as "obscenity" or NOT ACCEPTABLE IN PUBLIC.)
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e.g., I wonder if the "no exceptions" folks realize 33% of rape victims contemplate suicide. 13% attempt suicide, and those numbers are without forcing the extra trauma of carrying the pregnancy to term.
I don't know.
However, the dirty truth on stats like these -- they comprise the VAST MINORITY of all Abortions, used by the Abortion Industry solely to help them make the emotional case for ABORTION. (when ABORTION-on-DEMAND -- aka BIRTH CONTROL is the real goal and Elephant(D) in the Room.)
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Posted on 1/2/23 at 1:26 pm to SlowFlowPro
Was that Ben Franklin?
Posted on 1/2/23 at 1:30 pm to Liberator
You ARE entertaining. Post the link.
Posted on 1/2/23 at 1:34 pm to jimmy the leg
quote:Nothing. My position re elective abortion has been consistent for decades.
What changed. You said that a fetus wasn’t a sapient / sentient and that destroying one was okay by you. Why would you now be against pate term abortions?
A woman should have the option to exercise her rights early in the pregnancy, when the fetus is not even close to having achieved sapience. Later in the pregnancy, if she has not acted, she has waived that right, and whatever rights the fetus may have will take precedence
This post was edited on 1/2/23 at 1:47 pm
Posted on 1/2/23 at 1:34 pm to burger bearcat
The subject of the OP is not abortion.
This is the point and it is another demonstration of Trump failing to take responsibility for his action.
Lake, Walker and Oz were his creations and cost the republican the Senate. If abortion was the issue why didn’t say so before the midterms???
He no doubt suffers from narcissistic personality disorder. Everything for him is about protecting his ego. He is not making a statement about abortion- he is making a statement trying to convince somebody he did not screw up during the mid terms.
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It wasn't my fault that the Republicans didn't live up to expectations in the MidTerms.
This is the point and it is another demonstration of Trump failing to take responsibility for his action.
Lake, Walker and Oz were his creations and cost the republican the Senate. If abortion was the issue why didn’t say so before the midterms???
He no doubt suffers from narcissistic personality disorder. Everything for him is about protecting his ego. He is not making a statement about abortion- he is making a statement trying to convince somebody he did not screw up during the mid terms.
Posted on 1/2/23 at 1:36 pm to RollTide1987
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No exceptions is the only way to go. A human life is a human life
quote:No exceptions, for exceptional situations is stupid policy
a young mother who simultaneously finds out she's a few weeks pregnant and has cancer. The cancer treatment course requires her to undergo abortion, chemo and surgery to save her life. Once recovered, she can have several other beautiful children. Instead zealots, under the guise of "conservatism," would sentence both the mother AND her fetus to death. There is nothing conservative about that whatsoever. In fact, is about as totalitarian a position as could be held.
Posted on 1/2/23 at 1:36 pm to I B Freeman
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This is the point and it is another demonstration of Trump failing to take responsibility for his action.
Trump isn't responsible for retards like you.
Posted on 1/2/23 at 1:38 pm to Figgy
Your son would be a little older than I am now.
Sorry for your loss.
Sorry for your loss.
Posted on 1/2/23 at 1:39 pm to Liberator
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Was that Ben Franklin?
The first one
The second was Jefferson
Posted on 1/2/23 at 1:40 pm to ConcreteThreshold
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Life of the mother - difficult and unfortunately choice to make. You up for being forced by the government to die for another?
You wouldn't die for your child/children?
Posted on 1/2/23 at 1:42 pm to burger bearcat
Trump is 100% right here and the fact that he's not sugarcoating it for you and the neocons is a good thing.
Posted on 1/2/23 at 1:48 pm to SlowFlowPro
quote:it is Ooga. He is incapable of NOT taking a highly-personal shot at me. It is what it is.
My wife and I both married each other in part because of our future children. In my single life I wouldn't get in serious relationships with any woman I couldn't see marriage and children with. That's called being rational and responsible, not sociopathy.
Posted on 1/2/23 at 1:50 pm to AggieHank86
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in his Known Space series, Larry Niven posited a government that encouraged a genetic line that was almost incapable of logical thought. The idea was that occasionally illogic thought would be useful.
I find your tangents fascinating, ocassionally worthy of a peek "reality" through your eyes...
Did a cursory search for Larry Niven.
"Logic"?? Not so much. It's always the pseudo-science fiction writers who kneel before their cultist fantasy of self-anointed "Elites" to cull useless eaters in lieu of their own supposed genetically superiority. These writers are a dime a dozen in the last fifty years. Arthur C Clarke basically created the "Space" genre -- not only for SciFi nuts, but for NASA itself. There IS no such ting as "Space" -- but that's a whole another subject.
Tech and Transhumanism is the only escapism they and their fellow atheists have away from their inferiors (yes, I knew he'd be an Atheist.)
Niven, Dawkins, etal all feel its their last hope given to avoid death and finite human existence / expiration date and inevitably of Judgement Day.
Related tangential aside:
How do *you* feel about the "possibility" of Transhumanism and End of your Bio-Shell here in this realm? Does Hank's "soul" survive its demise? If so, where?
This post was edited on 1/2/23 at 1:52 pm
Posted on 1/2/23 at 1:52 pm to SlowFlowPro
Most zealots do not realize that the least-religious man in the prominent American life was also the man who wrote the declaration of independence
This post was edited on 1/2/23 at 1:53 pm
Posted on 1/2/23 at 1:52 pm to NC_Tigah
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NC_Tigah
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A mother diagnosed with cancer within weeks of finding out she was pregnant with her fourth child made a swift, steadfast decision: the baby’s life would come first, no matter what. Two years on, her story of faith, conviction, and survival speaks for itself.
Devout Catholic Jessica Hanna and her husband, Lamar Hanna, both 39, are pharmacists living in Detroit, Michigan. Jessica, of Lebanese heritage, and Lamar, who is Iraqi-Caribbean, were both born and raised in Ontario, Canada, and met studying pharmacy at Detroit’s Wayne State University. They always wanted a big family and are proud parents of four children under the age of 7: Christopher, Mary, Joseph, and Thomas.
“I have very traditional views,” Jessica told The Epoch Times. “You find that the happiest people were in a very traditional community. People mock these parents that have ten kids and say, ‘Oh, you’re crazy,’ or ‘Your life will be difficult,’ but these are the happiest people I know.”
I also find it funny that these whataboutisms deal with <1% of pregnancies women undergo every year. The vast majority of pregnancies are terminated because the child was conceived in the act of meaningless sex and neither parent wants anything to do with being a parent at that point in their lives.
This post was edited on 1/2/23 at 1:55 pm
Posted on 1/2/23 at 1:52 pm to burger bearcat
If you can’t see the orchestrated effort by Mitch and others with the Dems to throw some races in the senate the. You’re an absolute moron.
Mitch withholding funds.
Mitch commenting on weak candidates for the GOP before the election. Plenty of other things that happened.
All because they felt threatened by Trump and Trump backed candidates. Protecting the swamp.
Mitch withholding funds.
Mitch commenting on weak candidates for the GOP before the election. Plenty of other things that happened.
All because they felt threatened by Trump and Trump backed candidates. Protecting the swamp.
Posted on 1/2/23 at 1:56 pm to cajunangelle
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Trump is clarifying his position. He has always been pro life, except for rape, incest, or life of the mother.
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Trump in 1999: ‘I am Very Pro-Choice’
LINK
Posted on 1/2/23 at 1:57 pm to SlowFlowPro
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The first one (Ben Franklin)
The second was Jefferson
Wow.
Well, we know Franklin was a charming (and brilliantly gifted) perv who hung out with other (French) perves. HE wrote a Fart Book??
Jefferson was another narcissistic enamored with himself. (What other kind of person would cut out ALL the "supernatural" / miracle parts of the Bible??)
John Adams and he clashed over their opposite life philosophy.
Posted on 1/2/23 at 1:58 pm to RollTide1987
quote:why? If you did not advocate for “no exceptions,” people would not point you to situations in which exception should be granted.
I also find it funny that these whataboutisms deal with <1% of pregnancies women undergo every year.
Posted on 1/2/23 at 1:59 pm to RockyMtnTigerWDE
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If you can’t see the orchestrated effort by Mitch and others with the Dems to throw some races in the senate the. You’re an absolute moron
Have I ever gave the slightest inclination that I support Mitch, Lindsay, or any of those swamp turds? Other people in this thread calling me a Neocon and a RINO!? It's hilarious, not sure how you could read my posts and come away with me being a neocon or GOPe shill?
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