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re: Trump going after social conservatives again

Posted on 1/2/23 at 11:02 am to
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 1/2/23 at 11:02 am to
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Its his new tactic. I suppose it worked so well for the purple haired women he thought he would try it.

Dude literally said he had never heard of something and I provided some examples, showing him there were examples.

I mean what the f
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
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Posted on 1/2/23 at 11:03 am to
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Social conservatives are morons


They are their own worst enemies. Social Cons are just the flip side of the coin from Progressives.

Absolutism and hard line thinking don't work today, politically.
Posted by Liberator
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Posted on 1/2/23 at 11:03 am to
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Social conservatives are morons.


Nice analysis.

Posted by METAL
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Posted on 1/2/23 at 11:03 am to
Simple and too the point.

They are the reasons that fiscal conservatives, libertarians, etc. aren’t running train on the Dems and collectivists
This post was edited on 1/2/23 at 11:05 am
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 1/2/23 at 11:03 am to
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Has anyone suggested this is a psyop, yet?

Liberator has weighed in
Posted by burger bearcat
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Posted on 1/2/23 at 11:06 am to
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Good. He’s probably right. Social conservatives are morons.


Social Conservatives is the entire reason this country was founded and settled. Unless you think the Pilgrims came here so they could set up tranny drag shows for Kindergarteners.
Posted by Liberator
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Posted on 1/2/23 at 11:07 am to
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They are their own worst enemies. Social Cons are just the flip side of the coin from Progressives.


As you know, we rarely disagree.

Wrong-o, muh-brutha. By a mile.

Principles.

One can die on a Hill in the name of the Unborn, child-protection, or freedom of association.

OR (as Progs do) die on the hill of Grooming, Infanticide, and Tyranny.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
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Posted on 1/2/23 at 11:07 am to
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Social Conservatives is the entire reason this country was founded and settled. Unless you think the Pilgrims came here so they could set up tranny drag shows for Kindergarteners.

I mean, Pilgrims had dick all to do with founding our country.

They founded some states a few centuries before our country was founded, sure, but they had no impact on the United States of America.
Posted by AggieHank86
Texas
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Posted on 1/2/23 at 11:08 am to
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One cannot “punish“ a fetus any more than one can “punish“ a person in PVS. Without conscious awareness, there can be no “punishment.“
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So are you cool stabbing a person in a coma?

how do these two concepts have any relationship whatsoever to one another? “Punishment“ is imposed upon a perceived “wrongdoer“ with the intent of preventing or discouraging future wrongdoing. That sort of discouragement cannot be achieved, if the recipient has no consciousness.
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Ian Kochinski (better known as Vaush) … comes at it from a left wing perspective that the mother has superior rights to the child.
What is “left-wing” about a balancing of rights? 90% of our Anglo-American legal code involves a balancing of rights.

For more than 30 years, I have looked at the abortion issue as exactly that. And the people on your side of the fence have responded with emotional screaming about being a “baby killer.“
This post was edited on 1/2/23 at 11:20 am
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 1/2/23 at 11:09 am to
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Unless you think the Pilgrims came here so they could set up tranny drag shows for Kindergarteners.


Social Conservatism grew from Puritanism, which is political progressivism today.

Its the antithesis of liberty.
Posted by METAL
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Posted on 1/2/23 at 11:13 am to
It was the overarching idea of freedom, liberty and saying “piss off and leave me alone” not just the freedom of religion.

Just because you think social conservatives are dolts doesn’t mean you are on the sides of the trannies. Groomers can DIAF
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
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Posted on 1/2/23 at 11:15 am to
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Just because you think social conservatives are dolts doesn’t mean you are on the sides of the trannies.

It's part of partisan tribalism and in/out group dynamics.

Same reason why people say I have TDS

The irony is they then ignore their own TDS from Trump's abortion stance as they melt the frick down
Posted by Liberator
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Posted on 1/2/23 at 11:16 am to
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Social Conservatives is the entire reason this country was founded and settled.




(Could make a good tagline)

SoCon values (bitched about by some -- including the usual suspects) are precisely what's kept Prog-Fascist-Anarchy at bay -- until the Deep State orchestrated "Hippie-Feminism-Gay-Abortion-Tolerance" bullsh*t & mantras of "freedom" began taking down America brick by brick, building by building (And here we are, collapsing)

America's SoCons have long foundation of social courtesy, peace, security, and cohesiveness.



Posted by AggieHank86
Texas
Member since Sep 2013
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Posted on 1/2/23 at 11:18 am to
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Social Conservatives is the entire reason this country was founded and settled. Unless you think the Pilgrims came here so they could set up tranny drag shows for Kindergarteners.
founding myths are fun. Now tell us about Romulus and Remus sucking on the tits of a wolf.

Puritans in New England were religious extremists. They were not responsible for the founding of this country.

For that, look to Virginia and (to a lesser extent) New York. Those folks came here to do business. Well, that and to get out of debtors prison.
Posted by Liberator
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Posted on 1/2/23 at 11:24 am to
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For more than 30 years, I have looked at the abortion issue as exactly that [legal code balancing rights.)


Did you happen to examine the legality of Monkey Business and bogus arguments before SCOTUS, perpetrated in the name of Roe vs Wade?

OR, have you conducted historical research into exactly how in 1973 the American Psychiatric Association membership (and very hierarchy) were coerced, threatened and lied to by Rainbow militants to CHANGE its "Mental Illness" designation?

Fascinating account.
This post was edited on 1/2/23 at 11:26 am
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
298326 posts
Posted on 1/2/23 at 11:26 am to
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One can die on a Hill in the name of the Unborn, child-protection, or freedom of association.

OR (as Progs do) die on the hill of Grooming, Infanticide, and Tyranny.


The overarching position is more complex than individual issues. Both require fanatical retribution on those who violate their moral standards.
Posted by Mid Iowa Tiger
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Posted on 1/2/23 at 11:27 am to
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He says, unironically, to the medical professional



So Mr. (or Ms) medical professional. Describe how an abortion works, or share pictures. I have seen the footage and results. While technically there isn't room for a "hacking" motion, the baby is torn apart in the process most of the time.

Posted by NC_Tigah
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Posted on 1/2/23 at 11:28 am to
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I would say it’s a logical position for someone who is pro life.
Even if the product of rape is considered in isolation, independent of further potential lethal harm to the woman, if one does not concomitantly advocate the outlawing of IUDs and morning after pills, the position is not logical.

Why?
Because though it is not their primary design, both the MAP and IUDs can lead to nonimplantation of a fertilized egg.

Even ignoring "life of the mother" issues, are you for laws outlawing MAP/IUD as methods of birth control?
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
298326 posts
Posted on 1/2/23 at 11:31 am to
I do wonder what the crossover between rabid abortionists and anti hunting morality.
Posted by AggieHank86
Texas
Member since Sep 2013
44345 posts
Posted on 1/2/23 at 11:31 am to
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Did you happen to examine the legality of Monkey Business and bogus arguments before SCOTUS, perpetrated in the name of Roe vs Wade? OR, have you conducted historical research into exactly how in 1973 the American Psychiatric Association membership (and very hierarchy) were coerced, threatened and lied to by Rainbow militants to CHANGE its "Mental Illness" designation?
Could you try this again, perhaps in English next time?

If you’re asking specifically about Roe, I have said for about 35 years that the opinion was Constitutionally unsound, and I support the Dobbs decision.
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