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re: Trump declares Biden’s pardons as VOID bc they were done by autopen
Posted on 3/17/25 at 11:42 am to BigTigerJoe
Posted on 3/17/25 at 11:42 am to BigTigerJoe
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while the real work gets done
"real work" = passing Biden spending levels in a CR
This post was edited on 3/17/25 at 11:42 am
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Posted on 3/17/25 at 11:42 am to LSUAngelHere1
I suspect that this will all depend on finding out whether Biden was even aware of who was being pardoned and who was actually signing them with the autopen.
Posted on 3/17/25 at 11:42 am to NussBusDriver
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MAGA has done more in 3 months than Biden did in 4 years bud.
Like the CR just pushed thru that continues bidens policies?
Posted on 3/17/25 at 11:42 am to shinerfan
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But to raise that issue you'll have to get Biden on the stand
The problem is, at this point, Biden could be declared incompetent and therefore couldn't testify.
Posted on 3/17/25 at 11:43 am to Fun Bunch
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Congress?
What?
Posted on 3/17/25 at 11:44 am to Auburn1968
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I suspect that this will all depend on finding out whether Biden was even aware of who was being pardoned
Biden publicly talked about his pardons. I personally felt he was 100% in the wrong to issue those pardons, but there can be no doubt he was aware of them.
Posted on 3/17/25 at 11:44 am to RogerTheShrubber
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Like the CR just pushed thru that continues bidens policies?
Not a fan of that myself. The admin will never be perfect.
Posted on 3/17/25 at 11:46 am to NussBusDriver
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Not a fan of that myself. The admin will never be perfect.
Spending is all that matters.
Cut funding, all the social bullshite dies. You take their power away financially, not using twitter to hype the zoomers.
Posted on 3/17/25 at 11:47 am to SlowFlowPro
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The problem is, at this point, Biden could be declared incompetent and therefore couldn't testify.
Yep. It's a longshot but a longshot beats a no-shot.
Seems odd that auto-correct hyphenated no-shot but not longshot. Seems like it should be both or neither.
Posted on 3/17/25 at 11:51 am to Fun Bunch
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I get this, but there is a mechanism in the Constitution to declare a President unfit, and it wasn't invoked in any way. There's nothing I am aware of to declare him unfit after the fact years later.
There wasn’t time for the 25th Amendment to be invoked. He pardoned his family members minutes before leaving office. He issued the presumptive pardons just hours before leaving office. In order for autopen to be valid the person’s whose signature was signed has to be aware of and intending to sign the document. If Biden was not aware his staff was using the autopen then it would not matter if he had capacity or not.
This post was edited on 3/17/25 at 11:54 am
Posted on 3/17/25 at 11:55 am to shinerfan
I imagine they know who worked for Biden and could get them to testify if they had knowledge of approving or adding to pardon list without Biden having knowledge. Get them on record, under penalty of perjury. May not need Biden at all.
Posted on 3/17/25 at 11:58 am to rumproast
I know what you are saying.
However, you are going to have to get proof he was incompetent. Good luck. He won't testify (if he can). His people won't either. The Doc probably certified he was. You're a smart guy. Play this out in your head. How do you prove he was short of video evidence showing specific actions signed by other people.
However, you are going to have to get proof he was incompetent. Good luck. He won't testify (if he can). His people won't either. The Doc probably certified he was. You're a smart guy. Play this out in your head. How do you prove he was short of video evidence showing specific actions signed by other people.
Posted on 3/17/25 at 12:00 pm to SlowFlowPro
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and therefore couldn't testify.
That would make you so happy
Posted on 3/17/25 at 12:01 pm to BigTigerJoe
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while the real work gets done
When does that begin?
Posted on 3/17/25 at 12:02 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
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This is some pie in the sky junk
Sounds kinda like what the judges are doing and getting overturned, doesn't it?
Posted on 3/17/25 at 12:13 pm to LSUAngelHere1
I really wish he's stop this kind of stuff unless is merely doing it for effect.
Posted on 3/17/25 at 12:25 pm to Fun Bunch
Not sure exactly sure, but what I do understand is that the President needs to have a clear understanding of whom he is pardoning is the idea behind it.
Makes sense
Makes sense
Posted on 3/17/25 at 12:29 pm to AnotherWin4LSU
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There wasn’t time for the 25th Amendment to be invoked.
you don’t issue it because you don’t like his pardons.
republicans said for years he was a potato and never invoked the 25th.
Posted on 3/17/25 at 12:32 pm to SlowFlowPro
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Biden could be declared incompetent
Could be? That was already claimed in the documents case with his boxes in the “garage”.
Posted on 3/17/25 at 12:33 pm to SammyTiger
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republicans said for years he was a potato
He was and ya;ll lied about it.
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