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re: Trump declares Biden’s pardons as VOID bc they were done by autopen
Posted on 3/17/25 at 11:20 am to Fun Bunch
Posted on 3/17/25 at 11:20 am to Fun Bunch
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Remember all of the stupid crap about Trump being unfit and whether the 25th should be invoked for him last time?
Now imagine some activist judge being able to declare based on "evidence" after he leaves office that actually he was unfit and his acts are now null and void. 25th never invoked. Its absurd on its face
Yeah that's silly.
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Posted on 3/17/25 at 11:20 am to rumproast
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you can't retroactively declare a president incompetent, or a presidential order invalid due to lack of capacity.
Then prove that he was installed against the will of the people via surgical targeting of key precincts in swing states in a manner whose fraud pathways were determinative in nature for 2020.
Posted on 3/17/25 at 11:22 am to VoxDawg
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Then prove that he was installed against the will of the people via surgical targeting of key precincts in swing states in a manner whose fraud pathways were determinative in nature for 2020.
So do something 100x more difficult than what he said was impossible? Got it.
Posted on 3/17/25 at 11:22 am to BlackAdam
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He wants to establish that when the executive is using executive privilege the method doesn't matter.
Yep, you are very discerning. Void the pardons or give Trump even more executive power. It will take a while for the demorats to figure this point out. Then panic in DC.
Posted on 3/17/25 at 11:23 am to Fun Bunch
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I get this, but there is a mechanism in the Constitution to declare a President unfit, and it wasn't invoked in any way.
They wouldn't have been able to auto sign his "signature" for the pardons if they had 25th'd his pedo arse...
This post was edited on 3/17/25 at 11:24 am
Posted on 3/17/25 at 11:25 am to HoopsAurora
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if they had 25th'd his pedo arse...
Congress?
Posted on 3/17/25 at 11:25 am to fwtex
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My first thought was that this will get nowhere in the courts and Trump is saying this to make more noise and distractions for Democrats.
I don't know whether courts will agree, but I think it should be a legitimate issue.
The staff I used to employ had signature stamps for doctors that could be used in lieu of the doctor actually signing something. They could only be used under certain circumstances for certain things and if it was ever discovered that the stamp was used without the doctor's permission or for things that he or she didn't know it was being used for, fire and brimstone would rain down from the sky. ESPECIALLY if one of those things was a prescription, or something that had to do with an insurance claim.
To further the comparison, all EHR softwares now have electronic signatures and doctors rarely actually take a pen and sign their own notes. And it's acceptable for a medical scribe to enter the note and electronically sign it for the doctor. What's NOT acceptable is for the scribe to make up their note on their own so that instead of essentially taking dictation, they are writing the note themselves.
If there was a dispute about a medical note and the doctor was found to have been out of town when the note was signed, there would be some hard 'splainin' to do and someone would be fired and potentially in prison, depending on the circumstances.
If that's the standard for medical notes and prescriptions which ostensibly only affect one patient, it seems like the standard for writings that potentially affect 340 million Americans would be at least as tight.
Posted on 3/17/25 at 11:27 am to wackatimesthree
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If that's the standard for medical notes and prescriptions which ostensibly only affect one patient, it seems like the standard for writings that potentially affect 340 million Americans would be at least as tight.
It isn't, though
Posted on 3/17/25 at 11:31 am to BarberitosDawg
Posted on 3/17/25 at 11:31 am to VoxDawg
Dude, you couldn't be more wrong. Sorry I don't fit into the box you have decided everyone belongs in
Posted on 3/17/25 at 11:31 am to RogerTheShrubber
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MAGA would possibly be effective making America great again if it focused on issues that are actually doable.
MAGA needs to lawfare everything the Biden administration did for the last four years. Keep all you liberal fricks busy with constant shock and awe while the real work gets done during the DEMS constant confusion with shiny objects.
Posted on 3/17/25 at 11:31 am to GumboPot
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Of course the courts will rule that the auto pen is valid but in the meantime making them fight will be fun.
The auto pen alone obviously won't void but the fact that Biden has no fricking idea who he pardoned or why might. But to raise that issue you'll have to get Biden on the stand. It's a longshot but if it comes down to Biden himself defending the pardons he will fail in spectacular fashion.
Posted on 3/17/25 at 11:32 am to BigTigerJoe
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MAGA needs to lawfare everything the Biden administration did for the last four years
Good luck. Will take all your time and resources.
Posted on 3/17/25 at 11:35 am to Fun Bunch
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It isn't, though
Yeah, well, I accounted for that.
Is and ought are two different things.
It may not be the standard, but it should be. And since our laws and even our constitution can change when we realize an oversight has been made, maybe now is a good time to change it.
Posted on 3/17/25 at 11:38 am to Average_Comments
Your username oversells and underdelivers.
Posted on 3/17/25 at 11:39 am to BigTigerJoe
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MAGA needs to lawfare everything the Biden administration did for the last four years. Keep all you liberal fricks busy with constant shock and awe while the real work gets done during the DEMS constant confusion with shiny objects.
Do you honestly, rationally believe, considering the short amount of time Trump has in office, given the resources this type of thing would consume, that the juice would be worth the squeeze here?
Posted on 3/17/25 at 11:40 am to RogerTheShrubber
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MAGA would possibly be effective making America great again if it focused on issues that are actually doable.
MAGA has done more in 3 months than Biden did in 4 years bud.
Posted on 3/17/25 at 11:40 am to LSUAngelHere1
Posted on 3/17/25 at 11:41 am to riccoar
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This will all boil down to a giant waste of taxpayer money.
Like Democrats trying to block criminals from being removed from the US?
yes, exactly like that.
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