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re: Trump considering cutting income tax in the US due to tariff income

Posted on 11/28/25 at 9:44 am to
Posted by dgnx6
Member since Feb 2006
89832 posts
Posted on 11/28/25 at 9:44 am to
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But you're looking at this logically, and MAGA isn't bound by logic when it comes to tariffs. Or pretty much anything else Trump says on a given day.


Still waiting on the Great Depression you guys promised.



Posted by MidWestGuy
Illinois
Member since Nov 2018
2003 posts
Posted on 11/28/25 at 9:46 am to
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Nosevens - to cubsfan5150: Yes minority as majority of people doesn’t pay taxes or worse, they receive additional returns above their non paying
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Do you have statistics for that?

I'll do some looking, but it takes a deep dive - the typical stats don't tell the whole story.

You'll see the % of income paid by the different groups, *but*, that is just for filers (many with low income owe no tax and don't need to file). Far more distorting are the returns that receive an overall net *credit* are not counted in those stats.

And be careful of those stats, many don't distinguish between a *refund* (net tax paid), and a *credit* a negative net tax).

It's pretty easy to find the stats that the bottom half of *filers* pay only ~ 3% of the total FIT. So it sure isn't a stretch to think that adding those with credits and non-filers would push that to a majority that pay no FIT.
This post was edited on 11/28/25 at 9:47 am
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
299716 posts
Posted on 11/28/25 at 9:46 am to
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Still waiting on the Great Depression you guys promised.


You think it happens immediately?

Dont worry. You can always blame it on someone else when it happens. Its been a couple decades in the making
This post was edited on 11/28/25 at 9:50 am
Posted by Bob Sacamano 89
Member since Apr 2023
186 posts
Posted on 11/28/25 at 9:56 am to
If you want to continue to pay taxes, no one will stop you from doing any money to the government.
Posted by Bob Sacamano 89
Member since Apr 2023
186 posts
Posted on 11/28/25 at 9:58 am to
I think if the government shut down recently showed us anything, it’s how much we do not need the government in their current capacity.
Maintain our roads, give us protection, and maybe a few other small, miscellaneous things, and get out of the way.
They were problems with flying secondary to TSA, that’s a easy solution.
Posted by Penrod
Member since Jan 2011
55608 posts
Posted on 11/28/25 at 10:44 am to
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You don't honestly think they will be sending out $2,000 tariff rebate checks, do you?

That wasn’t his question; it was:
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Why cant we?

The answer is: We can, however it would cause a big spike in inflation as 3Down10 has been trying to explain to you.
Posted by Penrod
Member since Jan 2011
55608 posts
Posted on 11/28/25 at 10:50 am to
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Spending cut in half or more, federal government reduced in size.

But eliminating income tax for the middle class would have the opposite effect - it would cause the government bloat to get worse as the number of taxpayers decrease and the number of welfare recipients (the middle class) increases. How do you think those non-taxpayers will vote?
Posted by Penrod
Member since Jan 2011
55608 posts
Posted on 11/28/25 at 11:07 am to
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Would take a constitutional amendment I believe

Not at all. It would take laws being changed, but there is no constitutional requirement for the government to tax people’s income.
Posted by SDVTiger
Cabo San Lucas
Member since Nov 2011
98279 posts
Posted on 11/28/25 at 11:56 am to
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You think it happens immediately?


Well we are in year 11 of your prediction

You are the Diana Olynick of the poli
Posted by Kjnstkmn
Vermilion Parish
Member since Aug 2020
21926 posts
Posted on 11/28/25 at 12:15 pm to
Epoch Times - Trump Says US May Cut Income Tax Completely in Next Couple of Years Due to Tariff Income


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Trump said in a Nov. 24 post on Truth Social that he expects tariff revenues to skyrocket as global buyers run out of stockpiled imports they had kept to avoid tariffs. “Despite the massive amount of money being made by the United States of America, Hundreds of Billions of Dollars, as a direct result of Tariffs being charged to other countries, the full benefit of the Tariffs has not yet been calculated in that many of the buyers of goods and products, to avoid paying the Tariffs in the short term, ‘STOCK UP’ by purchasing far more inventory than they can use,” Trump said.

“That heavy inventory purchase is now, however, wearing thin, and soon Tariffs will be paid on everything they apply to, without avoidance, and the amounts payable to the USA will SKYROCKET, over and above the already historic levels of dollars received. These payments will be RECORD SETTING, and put our Nation on a new and unprecedented course.”

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This post was edited on 11/28/25 at 12:16 pm
Posted by Kjnstkmn
Vermilion Parish
Member since Aug 2020
21926 posts
Posted on 11/28/25 at 12:33 pm to
Posted by Marquesa
Atlanta
Member since Nov 2020
1889 posts
Posted on 11/28/25 at 12:35 pm to
Pay down the debt and quit trying to buy votes like a democrat
Posted by Kjnstkmn
Vermilion Parish
Member since Aug 2020
21926 posts
Posted on 11/28/25 at 12:51 pm to
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Everyone hates the IRS. It’s one of the few things everyone agrees on—both left and right. So, Trump comes out with what would be a life altering move to get rid of income tax altogether, thereby gifting every American a massive raise, and the left attacks.

They’re not even interested in discussing how amazing that would be. To them, if it involves Trump all they’ve been conditioned to do is lose their collective sh*t, even though they’d themselves benefit greatly. Think about it for a hot minute.

Trump is boldly/legitimately talking about something that would change everyone’s life, and all you get from them is dismissal and anger.

I point that out because it’s weird that they have precisely zero interest in considering the benefits if he can actually make it happen, being certain ahead of time that it’s impossible.

I guess ‘Hope & Change’ only matters when Barack talked about what he wanted to accomplish.
This post was edited on 11/28/25 at 12:52 pm
Posted by Rize
Spring Texas
Member since Sep 2011
19391 posts
Posted on 11/28/25 at 12:52 pm to
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Cutting taxes would be awesome for the minority of us that actually pay them



shite just make me pay half. I’d take that in a heartbeat.
Posted by Flats
Member since Jul 2019
28192 posts
Posted on 11/28/25 at 1:25 pm to
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Still waiting on the Great Depression you guys promised.


If you'd like to respond to something I've actually said feel free.
Posted by BBONDS25
Member since Mar 2008
59474 posts
Posted on 11/28/25 at 1:26 pm to
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If you'd like to respond to something I've actually said feel free.


It’s fair to point out how many times the panicans have been completely wrong.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
299716 posts
Posted on 11/28/25 at 1:28 pm to
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Well we are in year 11 of your prediction


If you couldnt lie, you would have nothing to say.

Posted by BBONDS25
Member since Mar 2008
59474 posts
Posted on 11/28/25 at 1:29 pm to
When is the crash, Roger? Be specific.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
299716 posts
Posted on 11/28/25 at 1:29 pm to
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If you want to continue to pay taxes, no one will stop you from doing any money to the government.


No one is getting rid of income tax. Not until the great AI bloodbath occurs.

Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
299716 posts
Posted on 11/28/25 at 1:31 pm to
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When is the crash, Roger?


I have no idea. Depends on a lot of things.

but Ttrumps inflationary policies are hastening the downfall.

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