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Posted on 6/30/26 at 3:01 pm to Ingeniero
quote:Oh, to the contrary!
Birth tourism is a problem. It's not SCOTUS's job to fix that problem
The Supreme Court today made clear that it's job was to enshrine the problem through a non-contextual interpretation of the constitution. What's done is done.
Those of us who value common sense will have to find ways to legally circumvent the Supreme Court's stupidity. For example, we could certainly cease to allow gravid foreigners entry into the country as birth tourists. It is possible we could insist as a condition of entry under certain visas, or asylum that paperwork be filed rejecting US citizenship of any child born during their period of stay.
But the Supreme Court did this country no favor today.
This post was edited on 6/30/26 at 3:02 pm
Posted on 6/30/26 at 3:08 pm to Ingeniero
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The framers weren't dumb. They knew what the wording meant and moved forward anyway.
So, the framers intended for millions of third world illegal aliens who hate this country to come here and shite out a bunch of babies, then force law abiding, hardworking U.S. citizens to pay for them, while they invade and destroy our country from the inside? Hmmm.... Something tells me the legislative intent for the 14th Amendment and birthright citizenship wasn't to facilitate that scenario.
Posted on 6/30/26 at 3:09 pm to Great Plains Drifter
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We are going to “principle” ourselves right out of being a republic.
Those who despise and wish to fundamentally change America have skillfully exploited our system and laws to their advantage.
They have played it well.
Yup. Impressive on their part.
Posted on 6/30/26 at 3:09 pm to stout
Sillly. If we can’t control our own borders, it’s our fault. Has nothing to do with China.
Posted on 6/30/26 at 3:16 pm to NC_Tigah
quote:They did us a huge favor. They didn’t create a class of extra-judiciary people present in the country that are untouchable by US law.
But the Supreme Court did this country no favor today.
Posted on 6/30/26 at 3:17 pm to BTROleMisser
quote:It’s crazy how much you sound like a democrat.
So, the framers intended for millions of third world illegal aliens who hate this country to come here and shite out a bunch of babies, then force law abiding, hardworking U.S. citizens to pay for them, while they invade and destroy our country from the inside?
Posted on 6/30/26 at 4:55 pm to Taxing Authority
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So, the framers intended for millions of third world illegal aliens who hate this country to come here and shite out a bunch of babies, then force law abiding, hardworking U.S. citizens to pay for them, while they invade and destroy our country from the inside?
It’s crazy how much you sound like a democrat.
Name one Democrat that sided with me and all but two of the conservative Justices on the Supreme Court today.
You gaslighting fig.
Posted on 6/30/26 at 5:27 pm to NC_Tigah
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Those of us who value common sense will have to find ways to legally circumvent the Supreme Court's stupidity. For example, we could certainly cease to allow gravid foreigners entry into the country as birth tourists. It is possible we could insist as a condition of entry under certain visas, or asylum that paperwork be filed rejecting US citizenship of any child born during their period of stay.
It used to be if you were pregnant you were not allowed entry for obvious reasons.
And the child birth could easily be contested if it oops, happened in the US right after arrival.
The russian oligarch worth billions who has a kid is not my worry, its the latino with a 2nd grade education humping a gang of cartel illegals who shats out 10 kids.
Posted on 6/30/26 at 5:42 pm to stout
in a decade to 20 yrs there will easy be over a million 18yo+ america born chinese in China alone. That never stepped foot here, and will be sent here to infiltrate every level of our system. The Manchurian candidate(s) are being groomed as we speak. Our culture and nation is on the path to destruction. Thanks SCOTUS "RINOs"
This post was edited on 6/30/26 at 5:43 pm
Posted on 6/30/26 at 5:47 pm to Ingeniero
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The framers weren't dumb. They knew what the wording meant and moved forward anyway.
I don’t think they ever dreamed of a country that would open it’s borders to the third world and commit national suicide
Posted on 6/30/26 at 5:55 pm to stout
And Trump just agreed to allow 600,000 more Chinese student visas because Xi told him to.
Posted on 6/30/26 at 5:59 pm to stout
Xi>Trump
He is playing chess to 47's checkers.
He is playing chess to 47's checkers.
Posted on 6/30/26 at 6:13 pm to BTROleMisser
quote:That's not the commonality.
Name one Democrat that sided with me and all but two of the conservative Justices on the Supreme Court today.
The commonality is the desire to declare the founders could not adquately contemplate the consequences of modern life, so the original purpose no longer applies. Same thing democrats do when they say "the founders never contemplated assault rifles (sic) being used for mass shootings!" to claim the 2A shoud be invalidated and gun control forced on people.
Posted on 6/30/26 at 6:21 pm to stout
I don’t think that I have ever seen an interpretation of the constitution that does zero for US citizens but 100% benefits foreigners.
Posted on 6/30/26 at 6:22 pm to RobertFootball
quote:that’s not true, look at all of Western Europe.
We are the only country that consistently kicks ourself in the nuts
Doesn’t make it better but we have a corrupted court and fed gov
Posted on 6/30/26 at 8:00 pm to biglego
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I don’t think they ever dreamed of a country that would open it’s borders to the third world and commit national suicide
The 14th amendment was written when we had literal open borders and were deeply suspicious of the Chinese.
Posted on 6/30/26 at 9:51 pm to TrueTiger
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I don’t think that I have ever seen an interpretation of the constitution that does zero for US citizens but 100% benefits foreigners.
A Democrat’s wet dream. t
Posted on 7/1/26 at 6:18 am to biglego
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I don’t think they ever dreamed of a country that would open it’s borders to the third world and commit national suicide
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So, the framers intended for millions of third world illegal aliens who hate this country to come here and shite out a bunch of babies, then force law abiding, hardworking U.S. citizens to pay for them, while they invade and destroy our country from the inside? Hmmm.... Something tells me the legislative intent for the 14th Amendment and birthright citizenship wasn't to facilitate that scenario.
This is why we have the amendment process. If society changes and we have to adapt, the correct process is to amend the Constitution.
Otherwise, you're saying the Constitution is a "living document" and you sound like leftists saying the 2A only applies to muskets .This argument also implies the 1A doesn't apply to the internet (because the authors could have NEVER intended the 1A apply to something like the internet they could not comprehend).
Posted on 7/1/26 at 6:27 am to stout
Yesterday’s ruling was a great day for the Fundamental Change enthusiasts.
Of course Congress could actually do it’s own job and address this but half of Congress is made up of Fundamental Change enthusiasts as well and the other half doesn’t do much of anything except go on TV to talk about what “they will do” if re-elected.
Of course Congress could actually do it’s own job and address this but half of Congress is made up of Fundamental Change enthusiasts as well and the other half doesn’t do much of anything except go on TV to talk about what “they will do” if re-elected.
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