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re: Trump believes that Zelensky is the one holding up a deal in the Ukraine/Russia war

Posted on 9/14/26 at 4:54 pm to
Posted by Fells
Member since Jul 2015
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Posted on 9/14/26 at 4:54 pm to
I didnt suggest that the sitting president shouldn't have a say, just that he shouldn't side for concessions given to Russia's desire for war and subjugation. Prioritizing American interests involves Russia continuing to be a small regional power and stabilization of trade throughout Europe.

Posted by atlgamecockman
Nola
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Posted on 9/14/26 at 4:58 pm to
The narratives on this board sure have changed since the John Barron days....
Posted by RohanGonzales
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Member since Apr 2024
13008 posts
Posted on 9/14/26 at 5:28 pm to
Holy frick, a lot of Ukraine bros in this thread
Posted by loogaroo
Welsh
Member since Dec 2005
43873 posts
Posted on 9/14/26 at 5:34 pm to
The TDS trolls never quit.

L
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Imagine Kamala as POTUS right now.
Posted by IvoryBillMatt
Member since Mar 2020
11442 posts
Posted on 9/14/26 at 5:36 pm to
Not our war. Not our concern.

Would love to hear Trump say: "I did more to stop this war when no one else has tried. This is not a concern of the US anymore."

This post was edited on 9/14/26 at 5:37 pm
Posted by Obtuse1
Westside Bodymore Yo
Member since Sep 2016
31368 posts
Posted on 9/14/26 at 6:07 pm to
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With that said I can see why Zeelenskee is wanting to claw back some of the early ground losses before any peace deal is inked.


It is all about leverage. Ukraine has been causing a lot of medium and deep chaos with fuel and dual-use distribution. A lot was made about the slow plodding Russia was doing toward Lyman but that all fell apart when it became clear recently successfully collapsed the northern arm of a planned Russian pincer movement toward the fortress belt and retook 200 sq km of land.

The balance for Russia overall has been a fairly large net negative for 2026.
Posted by backbone
Colorado
Member since Jul 2026
401 posts
Posted on 9/14/26 at 6:16 pm to
We’ve been in a constant state of war since Christmas Eve 1913.
Posted by PoppaD
Texas
Member since Feb 2008
5388 posts
Posted on 9/14/26 at 6:24 pm to
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Zylenski is a globalist puppet and dictator that cares nothing for his country nor its people.


Tell me about it. Putin seems to really care about his people and country more. That's why he has sent 500,000 of them to the graveyard.
Posted by Plx1776
Member since Oct 2017
19024 posts
Posted on 9/14/26 at 6:31 pm to
No shite. Zelensky's attitude in every negotiating attempt is from a false perspective where Ukraine is beating Russia's arse and Russia is begging for the war to end. So he demands Russia return all land they conquered and give reparations and only then will Ukraine be gracious enough to end the war.

Zelensky has an interest in the war lasting as long as possible. He'll get to remain a dictator as long as the war lasts.

Posted by EvrybodysAllAmerican
Member since Apr 2013
13013 posts
Posted on 9/14/26 at 6:33 pm to
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Remember when you guys would say things like “why would Putin rather Trump over Clinton?” Things like this is why.


You’re right . Clinton would have US troops over there fighting like hell to protect all the political kickbacks that were funneled through Ukraine to US politicians.
This post was edited on 9/14/26 at 6:34 pm
Posted by Tom288
Jacksonville
Member since Apr 2009
21709 posts
Posted on 9/14/26 at 7:33 pm to
quote:

Trump believes that Zelensky is the one holding up a deal in the Ukraine/Russia war


Posted by Sweep Da Leg
Member since Sep 2013
4758 posts
Posted on 9/14/26 at 8:00 pm to
Yeah no shite. He said this about Zelenskyy last year too
Posted by Auburn1968
NYC
Member since Mar 2019
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Posted on 9/14/26 at 8:59 pm to
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Trump says he believes Russia and the People of Ukraine are willing to make a deal, but that Zelensky is not.


Zelensky and Ukraine should have never invaded Russia.
Posted by BTROleMisser
Murica'
Member since Nov 2017
17065 posts
Posted on 9/15/26 at 9:17 am to
Duh... He doesn't want the flow of billions of dollars he's fleecing to shut off.
Posted by aTmTexas Dillo
East Texas Lake
Member since Sep 2018
24844 posts
Posted on 9/15/26 at 9:18 am to
Deal? deal? SMFH, deal.
Posted by BTROleMisser
Murica'
Member since Nov 2017
17065 posts
Posted on 9/15/26 at 9:18 am to
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Ukraine has all but defeated a Russian invasion


Posted by BTROleMisser
Murica'
Member since Nov 2017
17065 posts
Posted on 9/15/26 at 9:23 am to
quote:


No shite. Zelensky's attitude in every negotiating attempt is from a false perspective where Ukraine is beating Russia's arse and Russia is begging for the war to end. So he demands Russia return all land they conquered and give reparations and only then will Ukraine be gracious enough to end the war.



This war has only gone on as long as it has because Russia has avoided just boming that entire country into oblivion.
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