re: Trump announces plans to have all votes counted on future election nights by 10PM

County clerk election notes: why we still need to use machines to count ballots

You've probably heard from activists, distrustful of the election process, advocate that we get rid of ballot tabulating machines and count ballots exclusively by hand.

Certainly I agree that tabulator counts need to be audited, which is to say, hand-counting the paper ballots in randomly chosen precincts to check the accuracy of the equipment.

Which (1) we have already been doing, and (2) is now mandated going forward by Prop 2.

But before you call for 100% hand counting, consider what a huge job that would be.

In the last presidential election, Washtenaw County alone had over 200,000 ballots. We had more than 170 individual races, with more than 400 candidate names on the ballot, plus 33 registered write-in candidates.

Hand-counting all of those results would take weeks.

Recently, a county in Arizona experimented with a complete hand-count, and it did not go well:

"There were counting errors in 46 of 30,600 races on the ballots, as the team tallying the results of the election made mistakes. According to a report prepared for the Board of Supervisors, some of the observed errors included: bored and tired staffers who stopped watching the process, messy handwriting in tallies, fast talkers, or staffers who heard or said the wrong candidate’s name."

"Each ballot took three minutes to count, Tempert said. At that pace, it would take a group of seven staffers at least 657 eight-hour days to count 105,000 ballots, the number of ballots cast in 2020. Mohave County would need to hire at least 245 people to tally results and have counting take place seven days a week, including holidays, for nearly three weeks. That estimate doesn’t include the time needed for reconciling mistakes, or counting write-in ballots, Tempert’s report added."

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--Larry Kestenbaum, Washtenaw County Clerk / Register of Deeds

take it a few steps further.
Valid MIV's should be received BEFORE election day.
ALL MIV and early in-person votes should be tallied and locked in BEFORE election day.
Drop boxes should be BANNED.
MIV should be serialized, signed, and include multifactor verification like a thumbprint or it DOES NOT get counted.

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Make federal standards and tie highway funds to them. Isnt that how they got the drinking age changed?

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There has to be a connectivity/nexus between the threatened funds and policy.

So highway funds are associated with driving, which includes drunk driving. That's OK.

How are highway funds associated with voting? You could try voting funds, but I'm not sure if the feds give enough to states like Cali to have them remove MIV.

How will an average person put a thumbprint on a ballot and how would the local board of elections be able to verify it, do you know how difficult it is to verify a fingerprint? What if a person does not have a fingerprint online (I don't think I am registered in such a fashion as I have never been accused of a crime nor have I served in the military). And even if I was/would/have/had that takes an enormous amount of time, how will you fulfill Trumps 10pm promise?

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Not with a uni-party GOPe fighting it.

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I think the Constitution will be the bigger obstacle.

The call for hand count is simply an over-reaction to the nonsense we have seen with machine counting.

There’s flaws in the machine processes/software that wouldn’t be allowed in an introductory programming class. Asking us to believe that’s not purposeful is as fricking stupid as asking them to hand count 200,000 ballots in bumfrick county USA.

I'd say 1am in each time zone with midnight being the optimal time

10 pm is asking for these crazy arse Dem states to hold Rep county votes. Add 2-3 hrs and it's harder to hold votes out and accept a 3 wk later flip.

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There has to be a connectivity/nexus between the threatened funds and policy.

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Why?

If the house passes legislation that states must do X, Y, Z to receive any highway funds, how is that not possible? I dont recall anything in the constitution that would disallow that. And if there is existing federal law against it then congress can simply pass new legislation that handles it.

I am not a lawyer as SFP is so maybe he will reply why my thinking is incorrect.

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I think the Constitution will be the bigger obstacle.

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Shut up, Democrat. No one cares what you think. This is happening regardless of your crocodile tears.

TRUMP ANNOUNCES PLANS TO FURTHER THE FACT THAT I AM, IN FACT, RETARDED.