re: Trump and Ryan square off... Trump demands Wall funds

Trump said mexicans will pay for it.

Ryan remembers

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Trump said mexicans will pay for it.

Ryan remembers

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Ryan needs to allow Wilber Ross to start NAFTA renegotiations. When and if (a big IF) Ryan approves Wilber's letter of intent to renegotiate NAFTA Wilber will achieve Wall funding through a new NAFTA deal...you can book that. But Ryan is holding things up.

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Paul Ryan

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Needs to get his damn arse in gear!

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personally would prefer a Battalion on the border

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That's a lot of ground for one battalion. You know battalions are only a few hundred people?

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America voted for the wall and to enforce immigration laws.

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I hate this argument. People vote for a candidate, who has a huge collection of views and proposals, some of which are more popular than others.

In addition, we have a limited choice of winnable candidates so people usually see this as a forced choice, so that may not even agree with a lot of their choices views, just more than the other candidate. People also vote for reasons unrelated to policy altogether.

So I'm tired of this argument that because the is candidate won, then everything that candidate proposed was endorsed by every voter who voted for him/her.

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Paul Ryan needs to get the frick behind that promise or step down from the Speaker post.

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And this is an even worse argument. Why even have separate branched of government, with a major purpose of functioning as checks and balances of the other branches if we expect a branch to give into the will of another?

You guys sound scarily similar to the progressive left and their authoritarian arguments.

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So I'm tired of this argument that because the is candidate won, then everything that candidate proposed was endorsed by every voter who voted for him/her.

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Uh the wall and enforcing immigration laws was a central tenet if not a major, major driving force behind Donald Trump's entire campaign. The only thing that rivaled it was jobs/economy and ObamaCare. Those three things have to be carried out.

Immigration and the wall, ObamaCare, and jobs/economy was on the minds of all Trump voters on election day.

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Why even have separate branched of government, with a major purpose of functioning as checks and balances of the other branches if we expect a branch to give into the will of another?

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Legally and constitutionally, you're correct but uh Ryan isn't the head of the Republican party anymore and people voted to give that title to a republican President in Donald Trump.

The GOP's success depends on carrying out what the President campaigned on and promised then and that includes those 3 major campaign promises.

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Uh the wall and enforcing immigration laws was a central tenet if not a major, major driving force behind Donald Trump's entire campaign

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In the primaries it was, but it was not nearly a major focus during the general.

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The only thing that rivaled it was jobs/economy and ObamaCare.

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And those were more of a focus on the general.

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Immigration and the wall, ObamaCare, and jobs/economy was on the minds of all Trump voters on election day.

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That's such nonsense. Not only do we have no way of know what was on all 62 million voters minds, we know many people were more against Hillary than for Trump anyways.

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Legally and constitutionally, you're correct but uh Ryan isn't the head of the Republican party anymore

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No. He's the speaker of the house, in Congress, who has the "purse."

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people voted to give that title to a republican President in Donald Trump.

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They voted to give truly the title of President, the leader of the executive branch. It's strange how much you're focusing on their parties, when we are discussing governance, not partisan political parties which has probably worsened governance anyways.

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The GOP's success depends on carrying out what the President campaigned on and promised then and that includes those 3 major campaign promises.

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That's nonsense too. Thousands of miles from the border, a wall is not a very hot topic to the GOP in my parts as it is closer to it. So why would the entire GOP depend on an issue that likely varies in importance geographically?

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nothing but negativity, conspiracy theories, speculation.

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funny, that's pretty much how Trump won the presidency, now you're tired of it?

Sounds like you need a nap

Debt ceiling is a-comin'.

Tea people wont choose wall over holding line on debt.

Tea people wont even bite on trumps 54 billion functional tax increase to pay for additional war toys budget over the current generous increases built in.

Trump needs to rework the healthcare money off your grandparents and the poors down the street so he can pay for war. He may get it past house. Collins ME-R and Portman OH-R, already said no to the first version.

If this mess is unsolved in a month we will go to war. Hes not going take it sitting down all summer recess. He will drag us into a shooting war if he cant get his way talking. Ask him to pay that first billion on the wall. Pony up.

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Dude... shut up. The god damn wall will be built and through tariffs, trade deficit renegotiations, deporting the illegal free cheese immigrants, tax on money being sent back to Mexico...will pay for itself. if actually thought Mexico was going to write us a check...then you're a failure.
Here is some liberal fake news, so it's gotta be true

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AND, border crossings/attempts are down 50%. frick, it's already paying for itself considering each one of those would have had a negative $ impact on our economy.