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re: Trump accounts

Posted on 10/7/26 at 2:59 pm to
Posted by BurlesonCountyAg
Member since Jan 2014
5511 posts
Posted on 10/7/26 at 2:59 pm to
Powerman is so mad right now
Posted by BBONDS25
Member since Mar 2008
61212 posts
Posted on 10/7/26 at 3:00 pm to
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Should be means tested. Elom Musks kid does not need taxpayer money.


Phase outs are almost always based upon income. Impossible to do a practical means test.
Posted by Pezzo
Member since Aug 2020
3040 posts
Posted on 10/7/26 at 3:45 pm to
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Every child could be sitting on HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS of dollars by the time they turn 18.


The sad part is those kids will need that 100k to put a down payment on a car at 18
Posted by Lsujacket66
Member since Dec 2010
5612 posts
Posted on 10/7/26 at 3:53 pm to
I’ve played w different scenarios to use trump accounts to eventually replace social security…

gradually replace traditional Social Security with individually owned “Trump Accounts,” seeded at birth, invested long-term, funded through payroll contributions, with most assets protected for retirement.

* Grandfather current retirees: Anyone already receiving Social Security keeps the existing system and receives all promised benefits.
* Protect near-retirees: Workers roughly 50–67 stay primarily in traditional Social Security so people don’t have retirement plans changed at the last minute.
* Phase in younger workers: Younger workers gradually redirect an increasing share of payroll taxes into personally owned Trump Accounts over perhaps 20–30 years.
* Start children immediately: Every newborn receives the $5,000 initial deposit we modeled, giving the money 60+ years to compound.
* Keep mandatory payroll saving: Don’t eliminate the Social Security payroll contribution concept; redirect it from financing current benefits toward assets owned by the worker.
* Invest cheaply and broadly: Default investments should be diversified, ultra-low-cost index funds with age-based allocation rather than allowing retirement money to become a speculative trading account.
* Allow limited young-adult access: At 18, only a defined portion could become available for things like education, a first home, or starting a business; the large majority remains locked for retirement.
* Finance the transition separately: This is the hardest part because one generation’s payroll taxes would be building personal accounts while government still owes benefits to existing retirees. Federal borrowing/spending reductions or other revenues would temporarily have to cover that gap.
* Long-term outlook could be dramatically different: Instead of future retirees depending almost entirely on taxes collected from future workers, each generation would accumulate actual financial assets over decades, potentially creating substantial inheritable wealth.
* End state: After roughly 50–70 years, conventional Social Security could largely disappear for retirement benefits, replaced by mandatory personal retirement accounts, while government retains a smaller safety-net/disability program for people who become disabled, have unusually low lifetime earnings, or exhaust their assets.
Posted by LightHeat
Member since Oct 2020
612 posts
Posted on 10/7/26 at 3:58 pm to
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Great program and opportunity but the $1000 is still only for children born between 2025 and 2028 if I understand correctly.


If your child falls outside the window, is there a benefit to these accounts compared to, say, a 529 (which can often be converted to a Roth IRA if the funds aren't used for education)?
Posted by Aubie Spr96
lolwut?
Member since Dec 2009
44980 posts
Posted on 10/7/26 at 4:14 pm to
My daughter got one today in the mail. Told her to set it up and instead of cheap Chinese crap for Xmas and bdays, ask for money towards the account.
Posted by NIH
Member since Aug 2008
126080 posts
Posted on 10/7/26 at 5:30 pm to
You seem autistic
Posted by ATrillionaire
Houston
Member since Sep 2008
3770 posts
Posted on 10/7/26 at 5:43 pm to
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Should be means tested. Elom Musks kid does not need taxpayer money.

Disturbing argument. People with money pay taxes too.
Posted by Willie Stroker
Member since Sep 2008
17475 posts
Posted on 10/7/26 at 5:54 pm to
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The sad part is those kids will need that 100k to put a down payment on a car at 18

Owning a car will be a luxury. Unless you choose to add your car to the rideshare grid to earn money, you won’t need to own one.

Cars will be a service. People will summon driverless cars for daily travel. For longer distances it will also be cheaper to rent than to own.

It will make no sense to purchase a depreciating asset of that magnitude unless you choose to monetize it.
Posted by NC_Tigah
Spiced groves of ceaseless verdure
Member since Sep 2003
141646 posts
Posted on 10/7/26 at 6:02 pm to
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besides the would you do Mrs Dell one.
Dell has been incredibly generous
Posted by PUB
New Orleans
Member since Sep 2017
21668 posts
Posted on 10/7/26 at 9:25 pm to
Sorry you have to be an illegal alien to get your $100,000 of freebies annually from the government courtesy of the taxpayers
Posted by Captain Rumbeard
Member since Jan 2014
7646 posts
Posted on 10/7/26 at 10:20 pm to
That's actually a smart use of a small amount of money to solve the SS problem.
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