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re: Trump - "Take the guns first, go through due process second."

Posted on 2/28/18 at 3:16 pm to
Posted by BamaAtl
South of North
Member since Dec 2009
21865 posts
Posted on 2/28/18 at 3:16 pm to
So Obama didn't take your guns, but Trump wants to?

And you'll vote for him again, of course.

Republicans are such gullible fools.
Posted by moneyg
Member since Jun 2006
56365 posts
Posted on 2/28/18 at 3:17 pm to
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So much for 2nd amendment I guess



meh

I disagree with him and I'll oppose this move vehemently.

Pay attention. That's how logical people do it. You won't see true conservatives just get in line unlike you guys with the democrats.
Posted by Spock's Eyebrow
Member since May 2012
12300 posts
Posted on 2/28/18 at 3:18 pm to
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Yeah I figured that out, I meant more, in what context is he ok with taking guns before due process? Like in the case of an imminent threat, such as this boy posed?


Who's gonna be the decider on a case-by-case basis, and what will the criteria be?
Posted by DawgfaninCa
San Francisco, California
Member since Sep 2012
20092 posts
Posted on 2/28/18 at 3:18 pm to
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I'll be honest, he's about to piss off his base with the gun control. Dems will still hate him and will always be trying to take him down. This is a bad move for the Pres.


I have no problem with President Trump expressing his opinions regarding gun control and safety in the schools even if I disagree with some of his opinions.

I'll wait for the final bill to be drafted before I decide if I think any of its provisions violate the 2nd Amendment or any other constitutional rights.
Posted by SidewalkDawg
Chair
Member since Nov 2012
9820 posts
Posted on 2/28/18 at 3:18 pm to
quote:

So Obama didn't take your guns, but Trump wants to? And you'll vote for him again, of course. Republicans are such gullible fools.


Talk about painting in broad strokes.

I think most 2nd amendment supporters are fine with taking someones guns away if they threaten the lives of innocent people.

There is such a thing as nuance you know?
Posted by Draconian Sanctions
Markey's bar
Member since Oct 2008
84831 posts
Posted on 2/28/18 at 3:19 pm to
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Love that you try to make this a big deal though.


spin baby spin
Posted by BamaAtl
South of North
Member since Dec 2009
21865 posts
Posted on 2/28/18 at 3:21 pm to
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I think most 2nd amendment supporters are fine with taking someones guns away if they threaten the lives of innocent people.


Yeah, we're seeing tons of wide-spread support from you guys on GVRO's and red flag laws of late. (we're not seeing such support from the gun-clingers)
Posted by Maytheporkbewithyou
Member since Aug 2016
12590 posts
Posted on 2/28/18 at 3:21 pm to
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I'll wait for the final bill to be drafted before I decide if I think any of its provisions violate the 2nd Amendment or any other constitutional rights.


I understand, but you start cracking the door for the anti gun dems and they'll keep pushing it inch by inch until the door is wide open.
Posted by StraightCashHomey21
Aberdeen,NC
Member since Jul 2009
125394 posts
Posted on 2/28/18 at 3:23 pm to
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This whole meeting a dog and pony show...MAGA is just playing the bi-partisan game.



No matter how hard you try you can’t spin what he said

No taking guns, we need to make sure our background check system actually works
Posted by Bayou Sam
Istanbul
Member since Aug 2009
5921 posts
Posted on 2/28/18 at 3:23 pm to
I believe this is the stage known as "bargaining"
Posted by mtntiger
Asheville, NC
Member since Oct 2003
26615 posts
Posted on 2/28/18 at 3:23 pm to
That's pretty dumb of him to say. Those cops had many occasions to put him on a "no-gun for you" list and failed miserably.
Posted by starsandstripes
Georgia
Member since Nov 2017
11897 posts
Posted on 2/28/18 at 3:24 pm to
Trump needs to tred lightly here - this is not an issue that people will even entertain his gamesmanship with.
Posted by Rex
Here, there, and nowhere
Member since Sep 2004
66001 posts
Posted on 2/28/18 at 3:25 pm to
So much for gun rights and the Second Amendment.
Posted by rmnldr
Member since Oct 2013
38215 posts
Posted on 2/28/18 at 3:25 pm to
frick Trump
Posted by roadGator
Member since Feb 2009
139780 posts
Posted on 2/28/18 at 3:25 pm to
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spin baby spin


Spin? What on earth are you talking about?

I stated my opinion clearly.

Posted by SidewalkDawg
Chair
Member since Nov 2012
9820 posts
Posted on 2/28/18 at 3:25 pm to
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Yeah, we're seeing tons of wide-spread support from you guys on GVRO's and red flag laws of late. (we're not seeing such support from the gun-clingers)


I would be open to discussion on these topics.

You have cases like this kid, with all of these flags someone should have stepped in.

Then you have a case where some pissed off liberal or exwife accuses someone of something baselessly and they have to fight to earn the rights back. Which I do not support in any form.

Posted by Redleg Guy
Member since Nov 2012
2536 posts
Posted on 2/28/18 at 3:26 pm to
Bigger news is that Trump wants to add assault weapons ban to Manchin-Toomey

Feinstein was giddy with excitement next to President Trump when he said it.

Don’t go all “12D chess”. POTUS said things that should have 2nd amendment concerned.
Posted by roadGator
Member since Feb 2009
139780 posts
Posted on 2/28/18 at 3:27 pm to
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Who's gonna be the decider on a case-by-case basis, and what will the criteria be?


I nominate Yankee POS Israel to be "not it".

Perhaps the FBI should...oh wait...scratch that.
Posted by LNCHBOX
70448
Member since Jun 2009
84060 posts
Posted on 2/28/18 at 3:27 pm to
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BamaAtl


I feel like it's been a minute since you've posted some pretty graphs about how great Obamacare is. You should get back to that.
Posted by udtiger
Over your left shoulder
Member since Nov 2006
98470 posts
Posted on 2/28/18 at 3:29 pm to
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JUST NOW: "I like taking the guns early," President Trump says. "Take the guns first, go through due process second."


I suspect this was in the context of the specifics of Cruz...you know, kicked out of school, prior violence, dozens of calls to law enforcement.

quote:

Trump Says Police Should've Taken Parkland Shooter’s Guns Away 'Whether They Had the Right or Not'


Yep

Everyone calm their tits
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