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True or false: DeSantis should have waited until 2028

Posted on 11/3/23 at 6:58 am
Posted by udtiger
Over your left shoulder
Member since Nov 2006
115039 posts
Posted on 11/3/23 at 6:58 am
U for yes
D for no

I am in the yes camp. He listened to the WRONG advice. My guess is, someone whispered in his ear that people would abandon Trump in droves with all the legal issues and he would be the natural recipient.

Now, he's sullied his brand and royally pissed off the so-called Trump "cultists" to the point he may never be a viable national candidate again.
Posted by Damone
FoCo
Member since Aug 2016
32966 posts
Posted on 11/3/23 at 6:59 am to
Cult45: It’s His Turn!
Posted by idlewatcher
Planet Arium
Member since Jan 2012
96758 posts
Posted on 11/3/23 at 6:59 am to
Is it not obvious to you?
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
475973 posts
Posted on 11/3/23 at 7:01 am to
I think his chances would have been less in 2028, for obvious reasons.

Sometimes fate and timing just screws people and he's feeling that wrath.
Posted by tigeraddict
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2007
14761 posts
Posted on 11/3/23 at 7:03 am to
Can’t put all eggs in one basket. More in the primary field the better. Most are running now for future positioning

But it always been trumps to lose. But if something happens to his candidacy you needed someone already in the race to step up.
Posted by rebeloke
Member since Nov 2012
17232 posts
Posted on 11/3/23 at 7:04 am to
I don’t think DeSantis has the chops. He will never be POTUS.
Posted by moneyg
Member since Jun 2006
62883 posts
Posted on 11/3/23 at 7:04 am to
quote:

My guess is, someone whispered in his ear that people would abandon Trump in droves with all the legal issues and he would be the natural recipient.


You are giving him the benefit of the doubt. I think he knew what he was doing. Sure, he was originally hoping to win...but all along, the objective at its core was to harm Trump for the general.

At first, I was pissed at Desantis for being willing to do that. But, in hindsight, after seeing clearly who Desantis is (a weak, effeminate man who is easily led around by his consultants and wife) I realize that I had an inflated opinion of Desantis. It's easy to understand now how it happened.
Posted by TuDog
Boston
Member since Jun 2005
4533 posts
Posted on 11/3/23 at 7:05 am to
quote:

Sometimes fate and timing


Posted by Padme
Member since Dec 2020
9705 posts
Posted on 11/3/23 at 7:05 am to
I heard he wasn’t as smart as he was being given credit and that his success as a governor was more due to the Florida Legislature passing the right legislation and he rubber stamped it, to his credit.
Posted by East Coast Band
Member since Nov 2010
66950 posts
Posted on 11/3/23 at 7:05 am to
True.
He was America's favorite governor and his unnecessary attacks on Trump have alienated a huge fan base of his.
Posted by Homesick Tiger
Greenbrier, AR
Member since Nov 2006
56143 posts
Posted on 11/3/23 at 7:06 am to
I think Ron is hoping that somehow Trump is denied by the courts a chance to run next year and RD will be there to be the defacto Rep. candidate.
Posted by MFn GIMP
Member since Feb 2011
22999 posts
Posted on 11/3/23 at 7:08 am to
Let's say Trump is the nominee and wins in 2024. Why would 2028 be DeSantis' time and not the year for whomever (Tim Scott) Trump chooses as VP?

Also, if DeSantis is a dem groomer now why wouldn't he be in 2028? What would waiting 4 years change?
Posted by rmnldr
Member since Oct 2013
40294 posts
Posted on 11/3/23 at 7:09 am to
Oh you heard that? Really? Where did you “hear” that
Posted by MFn GIMP
Member since Feb 2011
22999 posts
Posted on 11/3/23 at 7:09 am to
quote:

Oh you heard that? Really? Where did you “hear” that

Bro, DeSantis is an empty suit and had nothing to do with turning Florida deep red. Believe me bro.
Posted by Y.A. Tittle
Member since Sep 2003
110851 posts
Posted on 11/3/23 at 7:10 am to
quote:

I think Ron is hoping that somehow Trump is denied by the courts a chance to run next year and RD will be there to be the defacto Rep. candidate.


In what world does a “cult” just instantly brush that off like nothing happened and run out to enthusiastically vote en masse for the guy who’s been sort of dishing on them all for the past year?
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
76732 posts
Posted on 11/3/23 at 7:12 am to
Waiting for "his turn" would've been a bitch move.
Posted by Mike da Tigah
Bravo Romeo Lima Alpha
Member since Feb 2005
61822 posts
Posted on 11/3/23 at 7:12 am to
The problem I have with all of this is that we are devouring our own, and that doesn’t speak well for us now or in the future IMO.



Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
76732 posts
Posted on 11/3/23 at 7:13 am to
quote:

I heard he wasn’t as smart as he was being given credit and that his success as a governor was more due to the Florida Legislature passing the right legislation and he rubber stamped it, to his credit.


This stupid shite is why Meatball isn't running away with the nomination already.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
475973 posts
Posted on 11/3/23 at 7:16 am to
quote:

Why would 2028 be DeSantis' time and not the year for whomever (Tim Scott) Trump chooses as VP?

Because if Trump wins in 2024, there is about a 0% chance any GOP candidate can win in 2028.

THIS irrationality is the entire basis of this "argument". MAGA really thinks they can win in 2024 and then 2028 (and, 2032, clearly).

quote:

Also, if DeSantis is a dem groomer now why wouldn't he be in 2028? What would waiting 4 years change?

That's why the scenario where Trump loses in 2024 doesn't help RDS, either. RDS isn't the chosen MAGA successor, so he'd be literally in the same position (but in likely an even more polar time for MAGA)
Posted by Pelican fan99
Lafayette, Louisiana
Member since Jun 2013
39505 posts
Posted on 11/3/23 at 7:17 am to
Everyone knows this is true
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