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Posted on 5/28/18 at 3:09 pm to Bjorn Cyborg
quote:So where does the complaint come from? I'm not a big Star Wars fan, but wasn't land written as a cheesy poonhound in the old movies?
None of the stuff you are worried about was even in the movie.
Posted on 5/28/18 at 3:25 pm to Jake88
The writer said some outlandish things about some of the characters, that was either a lie or got edited out.
Sounds like a publicity stunt
Sounds like a publicity stunt
Posted on 5/28/18 at 5:12 pm to bmy
I own all star wars films from episode 4-6.
I stomached episode 1-3 and thought the Return of the Sith was good. I do not own them.
These last 2 episodes have been nothing but a break from everything star wars since it's inception as I've watched the former episodes a bazillion times to know.
Rogue One was exceptional and enjoyed it as a stand alone.
Solo was a good movie but to make a character "pan-sexual" for a message is stupid and unnecessary.
I stomached episode 1-3 and thought the Return of the Sith was good. I do not own them.
These last 2 episodes have been nothing but a break from everything star wars since it's inception as I've watched the former episodes a bazillion times to know.
Rogue One was exceptional and enjoyed it as a stand alone.
Solo was a good movie but to make a character "pan-sexual" for a message is stupid and unnecessary.
Posted on 5/28/18 at 5:17 pm to RobbBobb
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Disney couldn't have made TLJ any more about politics, even if they had slapped a SJW rating on the promos.
Can someone explain how? Perhaps its just me, but I didnt see it this way. Then again some people see the devil in everything they do and everywhere they regardless of reality.
Posted on 5/28/18 at 6:03 pm to Arksulli
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You know, if you make a shitty movie and people point out its a shitty movie, calling them misogynistic racist homophobic bigots isn't exactly going to make them want to go see the next movie in the franchise. Even if its not a shitty movie.
Shockingly most of us don't like to be slurred in such a way. It might, just might, not be the best marketing strategy to use if ytou piss on your fans and tell them its raining.
link?
Posted on 5/28/18 at 6:06 pm to NYNolaguy1
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Can someone explain how? Perhaps its just me, but I didnt see it this way. Then again some people see the devil in everything they do and everywhere they regardless of reality.
1) lead female/"chick-fu"
2) interracial romance
3) asian girl with no real ability on a "capitalist greed is evil" arc
4) criticism of the military industrial complex
5) implied that the empire/republic (as perceived by right wing snowflakes) was the U.S and that the rebels are the equivalent of muslim terrorist groups today.. and it celebrated their victory
that's all i got. a lot of fans felt that Snoke was mishandled.. and the "fly through space" scene was terrible. legitimate criticisms.
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Posted on 5/28/18 at 6:20 pm to DelU249
Further evidence of the collective confusion that is being sown by these Prog/Leftist fools. It's so frickin crazy how few people are truly afflicted with real gender issues based on medical science.., we're talking instances where there is absolute physical evidence related to genitalia developmental abnormalities. If the Hollywood/entertainment industry did a true representation of this segment of society we would have less than one of these characters for every 1000 movies made, same be could be said for TV shows.
Posted on 5/28/18 at 6:30 pm to reo45
Wait.
Lando is a pole smoker?
Lando is a pole smoker?
Posted on 5/28/18 at 6:39 pm to Bass Tiger
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Further evidence of the collective confusion that is being sown by these Prog/Leftist fools. It's so frickin crazy how few people are truly afflicted with real gender issues based on medical science.., we're talking instances where there is absolute physical evidence related to genitalia developmental abnormalities. If the Hollywood/entertainment industry did a true representation of this segment of society we would have less than one of these characters for every 1000 movies made, same be could be said for TV shows.
except.. none of that was in the movie.
there was a droid who thought lando was in love with "her". #droidrights
Posted on 5/28/18 at 6:52 pm to bmy
quote:She is simply too powerful.
1) lead female/"chick-fu"
Her character has had zero development and really has nowhere to go.
She was interesting in TFA, but they couldn’t allow the female protagonist to show any weakness in TLJ, ruining a character.
She already beat the big bad twice and was never even remotely tempted by the dark side.
She is boring.
quote:You talking about the forced “love” between Finn and female Jar Jar?
2) interracial romance
quote:Just an awful story arc that was completely useless and existed solely for anti-capitalist tropes.
3) asian girl with no real ability on a "capitalist greed is evil" arc
quote:That is nothing new.
4) criticism of the military industrial complex
quote:That is the first I’ve heard of this.
5) implied that the empire/republic (as perceived by right wing snowflakes) was the U.S and that the rebels are the equivalent of muslim terrorist groups today.. and it celebrated their victory
I’ve only ever heard the anti-white angle since they only ever show stormtroopers as whites people, which does their characterization a disservice.
They are speciesists, not racists. They are strongly pro-human.
You forgot about the “women power rah rah” moments with ole purple hair and Leia. Not to mention that Poe was absolutely right in attacking and destroying the dreadnaught since it’s “mini-Death Star cannons”
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Posted on 5/28/18 at 7:04 pm to bmy
quote:
Further evidence of the collective confusion that is being sown by these Prog/Leftist fools. It's so frickin crazy how few people are truly afflicted with real gender issues based on medical science.., we're talking instances where there is absolute physical evidence related to genitalia developmental abnormalities. If the Hollywood/entertainment industry did a true representation of this segment of society we would have less than one of these characters for every 1000 movies made, same be could be said for TV shows.
except.. none of that was in the movie.
there was a droid who thought lando was in love with "her". #droidrights
I beg your pardon...., however my statement about the Hollywood/entertainment industry over representing the freaks of society still stands.
Posted on 5/28/18 at 7:09 pm to Scruffy
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She is simply too powerful.
Her character has had zero development and really has nowhere to go.
She was interesting in TFA, but they couldn’t allow the female protagonist to show any weakness in TLJ, ruining a character.
I think theres a canon reason for this tbh. We'll know more after the next film. She isnt the only abnormally strong force user. She is a little boring.
quote:
You talking about the forced “love” between Finn and female Jar Jar?
Seems kind of one sided
quote:
Just an awful story arc that was completely useless and existed solely for anti-capitalist tropes.
It was terrible. They already nailed the topic when they showed that both sides are making money from war.
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I’ve only ever heard the anti-white angle since they only ever show stormtroopers as whites people, which does their characterization a disservice
But thats not true. One of the main characters was a storm trooper and is a black guy
Posted on 5/28/18 at 7:35 pm to bmy
quote:Luke giving up on family, and all that is good. . .after spending 3 movies refusing to give up on Vader, because he is family. . .and then dying like a worthless footnote.
hat's all i got. a lot of fans felt that Snoke was mishandled.. and the "fly through space" scene was terrible. legitimate criticisms.
The entire "save space horses" shite was fricking nauseating. And the fact that the whole "capitalism is bad", but let's save the horses, and let the child slaves go frick themselves.
Everything with the lesbo purple haired giraffe. The character was awful, and made me pull for the first order
None of the SJW nonsense creeps into why I hate the movie. Those are all eyeroll moments, but there were a ton of eyeroll moments
Posted on 5/28/18 at 9:06 pm to VOR
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I’m pretty sure that the sexuality of a StarWars character is far down the list of things I give a rats arse about
Agreed. These SJW fools should stop forcing it into everything.
Posted on 5/28/18 at 10:26 pm to bmy
We were talking about the prequels. You know, the ones that were supposed to come before the originals.The reason they were hated wasn’t due to any underlying theme or narrative, rather, it boils down to one name. Jar Jar Binks. The one character capable of destroying an American cinema institution.
There’s a lot Disney could do with the Star Wars universe. It’s a big galaxy, after-all. I’d like to see what a creative director could do with some of the moral dilemmas that inevitably rise in a society trying to maintain order on a galactic scale. Freedom vs Security, Chaos vs Order, Tradition vs Progress would each be interesting concepts to unpack.
There’s a lot Disney could do with the Star Wars universe. It’s a big galaxy, after-all. I’d like to see what a creative director could do with some of the moral dilemmas that inevitably rise in a society trying to maintain order on a galactic scale. Freedom vs Security, Chaos vs Order, Tradition vs Progress would each be interesting concepts to unpack.
This post was edited on 5/28/18 at 10:29 pm
Posted on 5/29/18 at 10:42 am to DelU249
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Posted on 5/29/18 at 11:52 am to DelU249
Disney botched this movie. Han kept trying to be funny and didn't live up to Ford at all. Lando was actually unable to fly the falcon because he was heartbroken over a robot that just got shot.
Posted on 5/29/18 at 12:26 pm to bmy
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quote:
I’ve only ever heard the anti-white angle since they only ever show stormtroopers as whites people, which does their characterization a disservice
But thats not true. One of the main characters was a storm trooper and is a black guy
Whoa there. The only black guy who is a storm trooper got "woke" and rebelled. It is a characterization. Might as well have a side story arc of a ghetto space station that deals in drugs.
If you are going to throw in race and gender politics in the films, then every race and gender actor is a question to be asked.
Posted on 5/29/18 at 12:28 pm to DelU249
Did I miss something? I thought it was a good movie. What SJW crap was in it?
ETA: I went back and read some of the posts. Y’all all need to get a grip. It’s just a movie.
ETA: I went back and read some of the posts. Y’all all need to get a grip. It’s just a movie.
This post was edited on 5/29/18 at 12:35 pm
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