re: To those who oppose the Big Beautiful Bill

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You have no clue what you’re talking about.

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Really? So, you are stating there is NO waste in government spending, Elon Musk was wrong, and the Democrats have been correct?

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In 2024, the office estimated there are $233 billion to $521 billion in fraudulent payments across the government per year.

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For Social Security, the inspector general in 2021 found about $300 million in payments after death over about two decades

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The office’s estimate of $233 billion to $521 billion lost in fraud per year covered 2018-22 data in reports from agency inspector generals and fraud reports submitted to the Office of Management and Budget.

Musk cited the high end of the range when he said "half a trillion."

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The GAO's topline figures included not only official fraud findings from legal proceedings but also estimates from individual agencies' findings of fraud. The agency also extrapolated figures it believed represented undetected fraud.

The estimated losses represent about 3% to 7% of average federal outlays.

The Office of Management and Budget, the agency that assists the president in meeting his budget goals, found a lower figure of federal government fraud, from $4.41 billion to $7.31 billion annually, based on amounts confirmed through a judicial or adjudication process.

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Are you saying it's fricking impossible to identify the waste and reapply a new number? It's not. I could fricking do it if it was my job. It's not hard to find waste and cut. But, you are so enslaved by 1 man you will take the leftists talking points and run with it. It's unfathomable to me that you can't see what you are doing. OR you either do see it, and dont' fricking care that you are supporting crippling yourself, your kids, and your grand kids all because of your idol worship of 1 man.

You can still worship at the alter of Trump and think this bill is a pile of shite. You don't have to love him any less.

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Really? So, you are stating there is NO waste in government spending, Elon Musk was wrong, and the Democrats have been correct?

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I said identify what hasn’t already been you dildo. You cannot find 4 trillion in pork. Again none of you have identified it outside of saying cut military or whatever by 10%.

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Budget should be a separate bill

Create other Smaller bills that are targeted to a specific purpose

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I'm old enough to remember when MAGA folks got a house speaker tossed over this. Now they don't want it. But I guess that was a loooooong time ago.

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some have their entire identity wrapped around one singular politician

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I don’t recall this from psych classes or sociology classes but the basics of this sound familiar.

Need to take a peek. I’m sure it has a name.

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For example. By 2022 standards, the budget per person for social security spending was $100. 2025 Elon musk finds at least 30-40% of that dollar amount to be attributed to waste

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Cut SS and houses will be repossessed, rent will go unpaid, cars will be repossessed etc…at an unbelievable rate. Medical bills will go unpaid which will cause bills for everyone else will go up.

Any type of cuts to SS or Medicare will be devastating to our economy.

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Every bit of "mandatory spending" can be cut.

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Yep. We've reach almost 20% of all personal income comes from the government. Yet, "all the pork as been cut".



I've got news... the "mandatory spending" *is* the pork.

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I've got news... the "mandatory spending" *is* the pork.

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And it can’t be cut. Derp. Keep going around in circles.

I don't have the energy or focus to jump in this debate. But, I'm guessing there is some pork/military boondoggle aspects in there.

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Also Trumpets: Are you fricking crazy, a spending cut might negatively impact our free isht from the government!!!!!

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