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re: To those of you who continue to support Putin in this European conflict...

Posted on 5/22/23 at 4:42 pm to
Posted by NC_Tigah
Make Orwell Fiction Again
Member since Sep 2003
139063 posts
Posted on 5/22/23 at 4:42 pm to
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bamabro
SFP? is that you?
Posted by Motownsix
NOLA
Member since Oct 2022
3274 posts
Posted on 5/22/23 at 4:42 pm to
There’s a lot people around here who get downright giddy thinking about Putin winning that war. It’s a weird twist of logic, but I’m guessing it has something to do with the Russian support for Trump.
Posted by Peter167
Member since Mar 2020
6327 posts
Posted on 5/22/23 at 4:45 pm to
But trump thinks Putin is awesome.
Posted by BuckyCheese
Member since Jan 2015
57778 posts
Posted on 5/22/23 at 4:56 pm to
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1st downvote


170th
Posted by TigerOnTheMountain
Higher Elevation
Member since Oct 2014
41773 posts
Posted on 5/22/23 at 4:57 pm to
If we’re lucky, Putin will invade California next.
Posted by beulahland
Little D'arbonne
Member since Jan 2013
4077 posts
Posted on 5/22/23 at 5:08 pm to
At least Vlad doesn't play the piano with his penis.
Posted by moneyg
Member since Jun 2006
63090 posts
Posted on 5/22/23 at 5:15 pm to
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I hope you come to your senses soon and stop being a unwitting purveyor of the Russian propaganda machine.

Putin is a ruthless, paranoid, megalomaniac murderer. And he is not going to stop with Ukraine.

My guess is his next target will be either Georgia, Azerbaijan or Kazakhstan. Those countries have natural resources Putin wants, are close in proximity and most importantly, are not currently members of NATO.

If you continue to promote his propaganda it means you're either willfully stupid or worse, you're intentionally a part of Putin's misinformation network.

And that's all I have to say about that...



I don't think there's a lot of support for Putin. I think there's significant opinion that we shouldn't be involved...and certainly not unilaterally responsible for Ukraine's defense.

Are other nations supporting the effort at the same level we are?

Is there no diplomatic solution that could have controlled Putin and saved hundreds of thousands of Ukrainians? Are we going to end up in the same place anyway?

Is it possible that your opinion is based on some personal experience rather than a rational reading of the landscape?
Posted by Tantal
Member since Sep 2012
19821 posts
Posted on 5/22/23 at 5:18 pm to
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China is our problem.

Less so than everyone thinks. They're currently circling the drain. USMCA is currently re-shoring, near-shoring, and friend-shoring our manufacturing base. What we don't move to Mexico is getting moved the Philippines, Vietnam, Thailand, and Indonesia. Between being at the end of the world's longest supply chain that the U.S. Navy is no longer interested in securing, having the worst demographics in the history of mankind, being the world's largest importer of food and energy, and being an export-driven economy that's losing their primary market, the Chinese are proper fricked. They don't even have a neighbor and group of neighbors that they could invade to secure what they need.
Posted by Tmcgin
BATON ROUGE
Member since Jun 2010
6557 posts
Posted on 5/22/23 at 5:22 pm to
People here have been eating Russian Bot info here for years
They love THE Pundit etc.

Putin is losing makes freedom lovers happy
Posted by Ole Ag
Member since Oct 2018
2299 posts
Posted on 5/22/23 at 5:23 pm to
What if you don't like Putin, would prefer Ukraine won but not nearly enough to pay for it? Does that make me a Russian stooge?
Posted by 2020_reVISION
Richmond,VA
Member since Dec 2020
3289 posts
Posted on 5/22/23 at 5:35 pm to
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Maybe Putler should deal with his own backyard before he gets more embarrassed in Ukraine?


Maybe Biden should consider your advice.


quote:

Either way, I'm sure you cucks will keep riding Putler's hog, at least until those FSB checks stop clearing.


And there's the default left-side comment, born of idiocy, ignorance, & the fact that you just can't control your emotions.

Posted by udtiger
Over your left shoulder
Member since Nov 2006
115483 posts
Posted on 5/22/23 at 5:39 pm to
I don't support either.

I don't believe a dime of American taxpayer money, nor a single bullet of American military equipment, should be given, lent or sold to Ukraine.

It's Europe's problem. Let them solve it. Period.
This post was edited on 5/22/23 at 5:40 pm
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
134939 posts
Posted on 5/22/23 at 6:39 pm to
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You have more first hand knowledge about the situation preceding the war there than most of us.

Given Vlad's proclivities, and our understanding of them, do you not think he was deliberately provoked in this thing?
No, NC_, he wasn't provoked. He's been planning on re-subjugating Ukraine and other former Soviet republics ever since he took over the Russian presidency in December, 1999 when Yeltsin resigned four months after appointing Putin Prime Minister in August, 1999.

Putin said the breakup of the Soviet Union was "the greatest geopolitical catastrophe of the 20th century." He viewed it as being the dissolution of "historical Russia that goes back 1,000 years" which "left 25 million Russian people in newly independent countries suddenly cut off from Russia" which he called "a major humanitarian tragedy". Reuters

No, he wasn't provoked. Just convinced it was his duty to re-claim Russian territory by any means necessary.
Posted by pbro62
Baton Rouge
Member since May 2016
15325 posts
Posted on 5/22/23 at 6:44 pm to
frick off loser
Posted by ABearsFanNMS
Formerly of tLandmass now in Texas
Member since Oct 2014
20205 posts
Posted on 5/22/23 at 6:49 pm to
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Putin is a ruthless, paranoid, megalomaniac murderer.


No kidding. Now tell me what Zelensky is like. Better yet why do I care about 2 shite hole countries run by assholes?
Posted by Damone
FoCo
Member since Aug 2016
32966 posts
Posted on 5/22/23 at 6:49 pm to
What if you’re rooting for both sides to lose?
Posted by Tantal
Member since Sep 2012
19821 posts
Posted on 5/22/23 at 6:53 pm to
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Just convinced it was his duty to re-claim Russian territory by any means necessary.


He doesn't want the territory itself. He wants the geographical blocking positions that are in Poland and Romania. Zelensky is corrupt as hell, but I do feel sorry for the Ukrainian people getting their homes shelled with artillery. The only reason that I'm supportive of Ukraine is because I'd rather this end in Ukraine with NATO arms and Ukrainian blood than in Poland with American blood. There's also the risk of nukes if this goes hot between Russia and NATO. This whole Ukraine debacle has proven once again that Russia isn't really that adept at fighting wars. NATO would drag their nuts all over the Russian army, necessitating a nuclear response by Putin.
Posted by McLemore
Member since Dec 2003
35334 posts
Posted on 5/22/23 at 6:54 pm to
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. And it’s ok to say it without qualifying statements like Ukraine is bad too or democrats are evil.


Are those really “qualifiers”? They’re independent true statements.
Posted by shinerfan
Duckworld(Earth-616)
Member since Sep 2009
28544 posts
Posted on 5/22/23 at 6:56 pm to
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There's a post in this thread by some idiot who wants Putin to bang his wife.




And there's a bigger idiot who fails to grasp sarcasm.
Posted by crazy4lsu
Member since May 2005
39820 posts
Posted on 5/22/23 at 6:58 pm to
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He doesn't want the territory itself. He wants the geographical blocking positions that are in Poland and Romania.


He definitely wants both, as well as land access to Kalingrad and more freedom of navigation in the Baltics.
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