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Posted on 12/10/17 at 10:07 am
Posted by prplhze2000
Parts Unknown
Member since Jan 2007
51350 posts
Posted on 12/10/17 at 10:07 am
Look, I understand where you are coming from. I was one of those in the 90's who hated the Clintons with a passion. Subscribed to American Spectator, listened to Rush every day, got on Lexis and read all the British newspaper coverage of their misdeeds. Yup, it would be just like Song of the South. We got that b'rer rabbit now. They would always slip away. There would always be choruses of "we got them now". and "we" didn't.

That is one reason I didn't get too worked up over the server scandal. I had been down that road before and knew how it would play out.

Now y'all are making the same mistake the Clinton-haters made. You are falling for not advocacy journalism but hopeful journalism- journalism where the reporter is publishing information he hopes is true. How many stories that were so-called bombshells wound up having a "something else" angle or important facts that were mis represented or just plain not true?

You will wind up getting yourself worked up over and over again, more and more frustrated, and in the end, nothing will have changed.
Posted by ShortyRob
Member since Oct 2008
82116 posts
Posted on 12/10/17 at 10:11 am to
If the sum total of their campaign in 2020 is going to be "get the madman out of the White House" they are going to have a very rough time.

Honestly it's been 2 years since the campaign for 2016 started in earnest and I would bet my house if I grabbed 10 people at random I would get no better than 3 who could articulate for me what the Democrats want to accomplish.

Meanwhile at least 7 would know what Trump harps on. They might not agree with him but they at least fricking know
Posted by Globetrotter747
Member since Sep 2017
4300 posts
Posted on 12/10/17 at 10:17 am to
I don't like Trump at all, but I've never expected any serious scandals or accusations to stick. In fact, I hope they don't. I would rather just see him straighten up and stop acting like a 15 y/o on Twitter and elsewhere.
Posted by Salmon
On the trails
Member since Feb 2008
83525 posts
Posted on 12/10/17 at 10:19 am to
The MSM has nothing to do with my dislike of Trump. The MSM could completely flip tomorrow and shill for him 24/7 and my opinion wouldn’t change.

I go by the man’s own words and actions.

Posted by Pbhog
Pine bluff, Arkansas
Member since Oct 2015
3460 posts
Posted on 12/10/17 at 10:22 am to
Republicans spent 4 years 8 investigations and wasted about $20 million on Benghazi. Time for them to get a taste of their own medicine
Posted by cahoots
Member since Jan 2009
9134 posts
Posted on 12/10/17 at 10:22 am to
quote:

I don't like Trump at all, but I've never expected any serious scandals or accusations to stick. In fact, I hope they don't. I would rather just see him straighten up and stop acting like a 15 y/o on Twitter and elsewhere.



I have similar feelings. I don't want to see him go down unless he legitimately did some wrong. It's just really difficult to understand why he continues to act as he does. He's already President. The campaign ended long ago. If he doesn't want to be made out to be a madman, then he needs to start acting professional.

Rain on the downvotes and the LOL responses
This post was edited on 12/10/17 at 10:23 am
Posted by SirWinston
PNW
Member since Jul 2014
81376 posts
Posted on 12/10/17 at 10:24 am to
He acts like he does because that is what is needed. It's almost like you cucks sleepwalked through the GOPe actions the last 20 years. WTF is wrong with you? Do you really want GWB or John McCain?
This post was edited on 12/10/17 at 10:25 am
Posted by cahoots
Member since Jan 2009
9134 posts
Posted on 12/10/17 at 10:26 am to
You can be a reformer without acting like a 16 year old girl. It's not a binary choice.
Posted by Eurocat
Member since Apr 2004
15036 posts
Posted on 12/10/17 at 10:26 am to
Shorty Rob is actually dead on accurate about this.
Posted by SirWinston
PNW
Member since Jul 2014
81376 posts
Posted on 12/10/17 at 10:28 am to
Maybe Trump can't
Posted by MajorTaylor
Member since Aug 2017
217 posts
Posted on 12/10/17 at 10:29 am to
I strongly dislike Trump yet I do not think much will come of this "collusion" thing.

I think it a mistake for Democrats to pursue it and hope for a big payoff from it, but what else do they have?

Many Liberals in the media think TOO HIGHLY of Conservatives in that they fail to see that many Conservatives don't care if Trump colluded with the Russians, don't care if Trump is racist, don't care if Trump is a religious bigot, don't care if Trump isn't much of a Christian himself, don't care if Trump sexually assaulted women, and don't care if Trump raped his ex-wife as she claims he did. As a result of being in their Liberal bubble, these media Liberals fail to see that for many Conservatives the cutting of taxes, the cutting of government waste, the removal of regulations that inhibit businesses, the address of illegal immigration, and the movement to keep Muslims out of America are ALL THAT MATTERS and nullify any concern over the other stuff.


naive Liberal reporter: "Look! We have irrefutable evidence that Trump called black people the N-word and stated his belief that whites are a superior race!! "

Trump supporter: "yeah, and? Is there a problem with that? And who cares as long as he cuts my taxes?"
Posted by TX Tiger
at home
Member since Jan 2004
35632 posts
Posted on 12/10/17 at 10:29 am to
quote:

To the Anti-trumps on this board

Look, I understand where you are coming from. I was one of those in the 90's who hated the Clintons with a passion. Subscribed to American Spectator, listened to Rush every day, got on Lexis and read all the British newspaper coverage of their misdeeds. Yup, it would be just like Song of the South. We got that b'rer rabbit now. They would always slip away. There would always be choruses of "we got them now". and "we" didn't.

That is one reason I didn't get too worked up over the server scandal. I had been down that road before and knew how it would play out.

Now y'all are making the same mistake the Clinton-haters made. You are falling for not advocacy journalism but hopeful journalism- journalism where the reporter is publishing information he hopes is true. How many stories that were so-called bombshells wound up having a "something else" angle or important facts that were mis represented or just plain not true?

You will wind up getting yourself worked up over and over again, more and more frustrated, and in the end, nothing will have changed.
I find it ironic that you understand and accept this concept, yet fail to apply it to the latest establishment charade regarding Trump being anti-establishment.
Posted by Jbird
In Bidenville with EthanL
Member since Oct 2012
73424 posts
Posted on 12/10/17 at 10:32 am to
Man I love the current crop of "new" guys up in here.
Posted by ChexMix
Taste the Deliciousness
Member since Apr 2014
24770 posts
Posted on 12/10/17 at 10:35 am to
quote:

I go by the man’s own words and actions.
odd, I do the same yet I love the man
Posted by Salmon
On the trails
Member since Feb 2008
83525 posts
Posted on 12/10/17 at 10:36 am to
Obviously plenty feel the same way as you

I’ll never understand it
Posted by Tiger Roux
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
4936 posts
Posted on 12/10/17 at 10:42 am to
I agree with Major Taylor.
I think most people have a problem with some of the stuff Trump has said or done but look at the alternative.

Posted by AustinTigr
Austin, TX
Member since Dec 2004
2937 posts
Posted on 12/10/17 at 10:46 am to
quote:

Republicans spent 4 years 8 investigations and wasted about $20 million on Benghazi. Time for them to get a taste of their own medicine


Are you SERIOUSLY attempting to compare the bald faced lie of "it was a spontaneous riot started by a right-wing Christian video" with the mentally diseased Leftist explanation of the American people's choice for president being 'muh Russians'?

On second thought... if you are mentally diseased enough to believe the latter, OF COURSE you would believe the first.
This post was edited on 12/10/17 at 10:24 pm
Posted by Lsupimp
Ersatz Amerika-97.6% phony & fake
Member since Nov 2003
78362 posts
Posted on 12/10/17 at 10:53 am to
The psychological angst of Progressives has CONSUMED them . It is all- encompassing. While their homes burn they literally think about Trump . It’s a !legitimate mass - hysteria .

Rather than talk them off the ledge - keep tapping them in the chest . Keep them as agitated as possible because nobody discredits Progressivism as thoroughly as Progressives. This is glorious-they are destroying themselves - why try to stop it ? This is the long- anticipated Leftist Crackup . That it is psychological in nature, just makes it more entertaining.
Posted by MajorTaylor
Member since Aug 2017
217 posts
Posted on 12/10/17 at 10:53 am to
That's one of your great prides in life? 41688 posts on an internet forum and having been a registered member longer than have others? Really?
Posted by Jbird
In Bidenville with EthanL
Member since Oct 2012
73424 posts
Posted on 12/10/17 at 10:55 am to
Has nothing to do with the new crop of posters does it?
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