re: To the Anti-trumps on this board

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You will wind up getting yourself worked up over and over again, more and more frustrated, and in the end, nothing will have changed.

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Sounds like a bad case of "Blue State" Balls...

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Many Liberals in the media think TOO HIGHLY of Conservatives in that they fail to see that many Conservatives don't care if Trump colluded with the Russians, don't care if Trump is racist, don't care if Trump is a religious bigot, don't care if Trump isn't much of a Christian himself, don't care if Trump sexually assaulted women, and don't care if Trump raped his ex-wife as she claims he did. As a result of being in their Liberal bubble, these media Liberals fail to see that for many Conservatives the cutting of taxes, the cutting of government waste, the removal of regulations that inhibit businesses, the address of illegal immigration, and the movement to keep Muslims out of America are ALL THAT MATTERS and nullify any concern over the other stuff. 

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Never go full retard.

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acting like a 15 y/o on Twitter and elsewhere

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I've watched as the media has taken conservative politicians to task over innuendo and half truths and wished they would fight back and set the record straight. Instead they acquiesced and paid the price.

Trump does not acquiesce and he's the better for it.

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Benghazi

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You think you have any clue what happened in Benghazi? Why they were even there in the first place? Why it was swept under the rug so fast? Remember when it happened, what was 2 months later?

If the truth about Benghazi was revealed all hell would break loose.

The investigation was just a dog and pony show to get people to stfu.

I don't make habit of tracking the new posters here. Or, for that matter, the old posters.

I only observed the post count and tenure when it was brought up as attack against me. Most times I don't even look at the username of a post.

Obama received a Nobel Peace prize from the Nobel Commission and at the same time he was characterized by the Right as Satan, as a terrorist, as an America-hater, as heralding the coming of the End Times, and called every racist name in the book.

The Right completely lost their shite over the election of Obama. And then, after blasting Obama for being a "celebrity" who was unqualified for the Presidency as a result of his limited experience in government and his not having served in the military, in a great act of utter hypocrisy the Right enthusiastically elected a celebrity who had zero experience in government and never served in the military.

I understand the weariness with media wars and conspiracy theories, but these are not analogous situations.

First, let's look at the Clintons. The special prosecutor in that case was investigating shady deals going back to the 1970s in Arkansas. Even worse, the shady deals in question were the typical gray areas of ordinary political corruption where it's hard to prove with certainty that any quid-pro-quos took place. Was the Gingrich-led hysteria in Congress a little overboard? Yeah, but most Republicans were not focused on actually expecting anything to happen; rather, they just wanted people to stop bullshitting them into thinking Hillary got lucky on pork belly futures. It was just about "don't tell me that A is really B." That was it.

Really, it was the same way with the Clinton-Lewinsky thing. Most Republicans were more amused than vindictive, but there was some mild support for impeachment, just on the principle of "stop telling us that you didn't really lie because it 'depends on what the meaning of is, is.' "

In both cases, I might point out, what was alleged about the Clintons was absolutely true. No, not the stupid tabloid magazine bullshite about the Clintons murdering everybody--but about the Whitewater corruption and lying to investigators? Yeah. It was undeniably true.


Second, now let's look at Trump. This is not a matter of ordinary corruption. Is there some Clinton-style "gray area" corruption going on with getting national leaders to support his family's businesses? Yeah, but nobody really cares about that. The fundamental issue at stake is much more serious--i.e., (1) did Trump knowingly accept help from the Russian intelligence services during the 2016 primary and general election campaigns, (2) did he receive kickbacks or compensation from Putin-allied oligarchs for that, and (3) did he take overt actions in response to requests from the Russians in order to reciprocate the unreported help? I think the answer is undeniably "yes" to all three of those questions.

There will always be wild rumors and conspiracy theories on the fringes, like "Trump is really a Russian spy" or "Trump's campaign actively tried to hack election machines" or some other such crap, but let's be real here--that's not the real focus of the Mueller investigation.

Which brings up another point, which is that the Mueller investigation is qualitatively very very different from the Starr investigation. It actually has much more in common with the investigations of Nixon. Starr didn't start flipping close Clinton allies to report about serious issues related to cooperation with a foreign enemy; Mueller has.

You're in a fantasyland if you believe that the Mueller investigation isn't slowly building toward more serious problems for Trump month-by-month, week-by-week. It is. Anyone who thinks the Mueller investigation is floundering is a delusional follower of shady conservative media outlets.

Are you ever anything but a taunting jackwad in your posts?

Why the anger alter?

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Republicans spent 4 years 8 investigations and wasted about $20 million on Benghazi. Time for them to get a taste of their own medicine

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I must have missed where President Trump being asleep at the wheel led to the deaths of an American Ambassador and 3 others. Wanna fill me in on that, Ace?