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re: This isn’t a great look for the pentagon. They appear to claim Mormons aren’t Christians

Posted on 6/9/26 at 5:43 am to
Posted by TulsaSooner78
Member since Aug 2025
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Posted on 6/9/26 at 5:43 am to
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And you know why Islam is NOT an Abrahamic religion?!?! Because their 'god' Allah did NOT have a SON.


They trace their lineage to Abraham. That is why they are called "Abrahamic".

The Jewish god does not have a son, either. Is Judaism not "Abrahamic"?
Posted by TulsaSooner78
Member since Aug 2025
3365 posts
Posted on 6/9/26 at 5:47 am to
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There will be a Church and Christianity in the year 4026 won't there?


None of us alive today will ever know.
Posted by tarzana
TX Hwy 6-- the Brazos River Valley
Member since Sep 2015
32270 posts
Posted on 6/9/26 at 6:18 am to
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some random dude made it up 200 years ago

Bingo! It flies in the face of established Christianity. They have their own alternative gospel based upon a widely held belief in the 1800's that the Native American populations were descendants of the ancient tribes of Israel. That postulate is fully rejected by all natural historians today, yet it is fundamental to the Mormon scriptural canon, replete with its own list of prophets and saints. The "Book Of Mormon" has no scriptural validity whatsoever
Posted by RollTide4Ever
Nashville
Member since Nov 2006
20191 posts
Posted on 6/9/26 at 6:26 am to
Real smart considering alot of cIa are mormons.
Posted by Ailsa
Member since May 2020
9625 posts
Posted on 6/9/26 at 9:05 am to
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The book of Mormon is not meant for a history lesson you dumb Mormon. It's the new way of life..the addendum some nut job and his followers wrote. Joseph Smiths rich educated wife is the one that actually wrote the text.. proven facts jack

You blame everything on BYU, definitely a psychopath. However, why did Joseph keep getting kicked out of towns across the north, then Midwest? Chased out of towns...he was a NUT job.

BTW, you said Jesus had 3 wives and children...that's not Biblical. That's Mormon BS.

Use The Google, read up on the all eyewitness testimonials about Joseph banging local teens as he was kicked out of every town.

Alcoholism? You don't dispute that because witnesses and newspapers would write accounts of the Mormon leader being an alcoholic and causing chaos in taverns

Joseph was a uneducated nut Job who swindled his wife, rich and connected to write the insane Mormon text.

Mormons are so brainwashed that if they claim they are Christians we will believe them.

You think God was a human- check

You think God is currently married and lives with his wife on a planet - check

You think having to EARN your way into heaven is a prerequisite to get to your 3 heavens (kind of different than the New Testament) -check

You think MAN can become a God on earth in human form , as in walking around the earth today - check



#1 I'm not a mormon.

#2 The book of mormon is the history of people in this hemisphere. In what way is it a "new way of life"? Brigham did change a lot of the text but I haven't read all that he wrote. Care to quote what you're talking about?

#3 Emma was not rich nor was she highly educated...she had no part in writing any of the text. You have no facts other than your unfounded opinion.

#4 Joseph was not kicked out of any town and was against drinking alcoholic beverages as well as coffee and tea and tobacco.

#5 The utah mormons believe that Jesus had 3 wives...not me.

#6 "Use The Google, read up on the all eyewitness testimonials" ??? no thanks.

#7 What I posted was utah mormon beliefs...not mine. No where was it said that God had wives or was human. His son Jesus was born in the flesh.

#8 The rest is mormon belief...again...not mine...nor did the original teach any of those things.

The mormon people have been raised to believe some false doctrines...just like any other religion.

Do you believe in Jesus Christ?




Posted by Champagne
Sabine Free State.
Member since Oct 2007
55520 posts
Posted on 6/9/26 at 9:10 am to
I can assure you that no sane person in the USA today is serving and worshipping pagan god statues.
Posted by Champagne
Sabine Free State.
Member since Oct 2007
55520 posts
Posted on 6/9/26 at 9:14 am to
This is the Dept of War manual on the various Faiths that the agency will recognize. If the Mormons say that they want to be listed as a Christian Faith, then the DoW should honor that request in the manual.

Whether or not the Mormons are really Christians is a Theological issue. The DoW manual is not a Theological document.
Posted by Ailsa
Member since May 2020
9625 posts
Posted on 6/9/26 at 9:18 am to
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read the book of mormon


Have you read the original book of mormon?
Posted by Ailsa
Member since May 2020
9625 posts
Posted on 6/9/26 at 9:23 am to
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I can assure you that no sane person in the USA today is serving and worshipping pagan god statues.


Catholics stand in front of the statue of mary and make the sign of the cross...that is a form of worship.

Exodus 20:4 Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image, or any likeness of any thing that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth;
Posted by JoseyWalesLA
Texas
Member since Dec 2012
198 posts
Posted on 6/9/26 at 9:35 am to
You may be the dumbest person on this site...

There are literally hundreds of books on the Mormon BS theology.

Dozens and dozens of books on Joseph Smith and his troubles. Just because you claim it's not true, doesn't erase historical evidence.

The funniest BS claim you state, was that the Mormons were not chased across the country...kicked out of every town they tried to set up in...

Why the hell do you think the nut job Mormons ended up in Salt Lake and not in NY? SLC was first and foremost a defensable land mass...this is historical evidence. BY stated it. Many times.

Go research and don't use the AI - it's flooded with Mormon support...but you won't, because you're an idiot.

Here's a fun character to read up on...

"Orrin Porter Rockwell" he was BY's bodyguard.. truly one of America's first serial killers.
Posted by Ailsa
Member since May 2020
9625 posts
Posted on 6/9/26 at 10:10 am to
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Go research and don't use the AI


I don't as you seem to do for all of your information.
Posted by Squirrelmeister
Member since Nov 2021
3861 posts
Posted on 6/9/26 at 10:16 am to
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I can assure you that no sane person in the USA today is serving and worshipping pagan god statues.

Champagne, I think you might be implying that there may be persons elsewhere or in history that worshipped pagan god statues.

If you are talking about the Ancient Greeks or Assyrians or Egyptians or Canaanites or similar, they didn’t actually worship statues. They had divine imagines, including figurines and statues and totems (you might call them idols) that they used to invoke the presence of their deities. They believed they could channel their deity into the divine image to manifest the presence of the god. They weren’t worshipping the statues, but the gods that the statues represented.

In the exact same way, the Israelites worshipped Nehushtan the snake deity of healing and channeled him through the image (the bronze serpent in the temple). They worshipped Yahweh’s mother Asherah, the Holy Spirit, using wooden totems and almond trees (the menorah represents the tree of Asherah, and remember the time Moses’ staff sprouted almost branches and leaves). And they had divine images of Yahweh too. They had the golden bulls and they had the ark of the covenant and they had standing stones. They didn’t worship the statue of the golden bulls, rather they worshipped Yahweh and believed the statue or the ark could manifest the presence.
Posted by JoseyWalesLA
Texas
Member since Dec 2012
198 posts
Posted on 6/9/26 at 10:41 am to
You're one of those contrarion idiots..Just trolling the board like a pre-teen queen.

GFY...and I mean that literally...
Posted by conservativewifeymom
Mid Atlantic
Member since Oct 2012
14204 posts
Posted on 6/9/26 at 11:37 am to
The Jewish God is the Christian God! Surely you know that much.
Posted by Ailsa
Member since May 2020
9625 posts
Posted on 6/9/26 at 12:15 pm to
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GFY...and I mean that literally...


You are not a christian.

Posted by dr
texas
Member since Mar 2022
1336 posts
Posted on 6/9/26 at 12:21 pm to
I have, and I also have collected & read various other books

there is some interesting historical stuff

I also have read a lot about the indian nations there at the time

i think we are not correctl told what the great burning really was either.

heck I have even read the book of urantia
Posted by Ailsa
Member since May 2020
9625 posts
Posted on 6/9/26 at 12:26 pm to
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i think we are not correctl told what the great burning really was either.


What was the "great burning"?
Posted by Champagne
Sabine Free State.
Member since Oct 2007
55520 posts
Posted on 6/9/26 at 1:24 pm to
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Catholics stand in front of the statue of mary and make the sign of the cross...that is a form of worship.


It is not and we have had this debate many time around here. You do not get to define the meaning of the word "Worship", for your own selfish theological reasons.
Posted by Champagne
Sabine Free State.
Member since Oct 2007
55520 posts
Posted on 6/9/26 at 1:27 pm to
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They weren’t worshipping the statues, but the gods that the statues represented.


I think you are largely correct here.

Even the ancient pagans weren't worshipping wood and stone idols - they were worshipping the pagan gods that the statues represented.

This notion that the statues in various churches is the same as worshipping idols is simply nonsense made up by people with theological axes to grind. No thinking rational purpose would be persuaded by such specious nonsense.

I have nothing further to say on this matter. It's obvious that we are going to turn this thread into another endless bashing of the same church about the same issues over and over and over again.

When these haters go to Hell, their Eternal Punishment will be to be forced to argue with a Demon about Theology whilst burning in fire. They will be forced to argue the same thing over and over endlessly, and once one argument is over - 3 minutes later, the same issue will be argued again as thought it had never before been argued.

It will be much worse for them than Sisyphus's punishment.

This post was edited on 6/9/26 at 1:30 pm
Posted by TulsaSooner78
Member since Aug 2025
3365 posts
Posted on 6/9/26 at 3:03 pm to
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The Jewish God is the Christian God! Surely you know that much.


That makes no sense.

You said Islam is not "Abrahamic" because their god does not have a son.

The Jewish god does not have a son, either, but somehow you give them a pass.

You do realize that the Jews consider Jesus to be a heretic, and that he is boiling in excrement in Hell, right?
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