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This is why Fauci pushed Remdesivir

Posted on 6/29/20 at 12:17 pm
Posted by AubieinNC2009
Mountain NC
Member since Dec 2018
4959 posts
Posted on 6/29/20 at 12:17 pm
CNBC - $3,120 for 5 day treatment

And that is with private insurance. No wonder they dont want the cheap hydroxychloroquine to work.

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The drugmaker said it will sell remdesivir for $390 per vial to governments “of developed countries” around the world, and the price for U.S. private insurance companies will stand at $520 per vial. In the U.S., that means Gilead will charge a lower price for government programs like Medicare and a higher price for private insurers.
Posted by FenrirTheBeard
NOLA
Member since Jun 2012
6433 posts
Posted on 6/29/20 at 12:18 pm to
Always follow the money.
Posted by Bulldogblitz
In my house
Member since Dec 2018
26784 posts
Posted on 6/29/20 at 12:18 pm to
but fauci donated his share!!!!
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
118854 posts
Posted on 6/29/20 at 12:18 pm to
Of course. Everyone knows Fauci is captured by the pharmaceutical companies. Money is more important to Fauci than saving lives. Fauci is a fraud.
Posted by jrodLSUke
Premium
Member since Jan 2011
22189 posts
Posted on 6/29/20 at 12:22 pm to
Why are they charging US healthcare companies more?
Posted by Question
Member since May 2020
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Posted on 6/29/20 at 12:23 pm to
Posted by NC_Tigah
Carolinas
Member since Sep 2003
123945 posts
Posted on 6/29/20 at 12:35 pm to
quote:

This is why Fauci pushed Remdesivir
CNBC - $3,120 for 5 day treatment

And that is with private insurance. No wonder they dont want the cheap hydroxychloroquine to work.
Your narrative would be more believable if Dexamethasone was not 25¢/tablet . . . retail!
Posted by Robin Masters
Birmingham
Member since Jul 2010
29824 posts
Posted on 6/29/20 at 12:38 pm to
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Why are they charging US healthcare companies more?


They always charge us more.

Because they can.
Posted by jimmy the leg
Member since Aug 2007
34220 posts
Posted on 6/29/20 at 12:43 pm to
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Your narrative would be more believable if Dexamethasone was not 25¢/tablet . . . retail!


This news, sadly, has been buried.
Posted by NC_Tigah
Carolinas
Member since Sep 2003
123945 posts
Posted on 6/29/20 at 12:48 pm to
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This news, sadly, has been buried.
IMO, regn-cov2 will put this stuff to bed by summer's end
Posted by jimbeam
University of LSU
Member since Oct 2011
75703 posts
Posted on 6/29/20 at 12:48 pm to
It’s always about money. Always.
Posted by PeteRose
Hall of Fame
Member since Aug 2014
16876 posts
Posted on 6/29/20 at 12:51 pm to
fauci: more data needed for hydroxychloroquine to determine.

fauci: remdesivir looks promising.
Posted by TigerStripes30
Alexandria, LA
Member since Dec 2011
6369 posts
Posted on 6/29/20 at 1:12 pm to
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but fauci donated his share!!!!


yea to the Wuhon Lab
Posted by longwayfromLA
NYC
Member since Nov 2007
3331 posts
Posted on 6/29/20 at 3:00 pm to
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And that is with private insurance. No wonder they dont want the cheap hydroxychloroquine to work


To be fair, one of them works and the other one definitely doesn't so there's that. Anyhow, $3,120 as a non-negotiated charge before the payers' discount is not so bad or rather it could be much worse.
Posted by Auburn1968
NYC
Member since Mar 2019
19550 posts
Posted on 6/29/20 at 3:10 pm to
A Tale of Two Drugs: Money vs. Medical Wisdom; Hydroxychloroquine and Remdesivir

Elizabeth Lee Vliet, M.D.

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In decades of widespread use, HCQ has an impressive safety record. Irregular heart rhythm or damage to the retina occur rarely, usually with high doses used long term. FDA shows only 62 cardiac deaths attributed to HCQ out of more than 50 million prescriptions, or 0.000124 percent (1.2 out of each 1 million Rx). Rheumatology guidelines for lupus and rheumatoid arthritis do not even require baseline electrocardiograms before prescribing HCQ, since the risk is minimal.


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Early results of the first clinical trial of remdesivir against placebo in coronavirus were announced at the White House Apr 30, and showed modest benefits, according to The New York Times. Surviving patients given remdesivir were discharged 4 days sooner than patients given placebo, though no criteria were given for determining improvement. Death rates were not significantly different. About 25 percent of patients receiving remdesivir had potentially severe side effects, including multiple organ dysfunction, septic shock, acute kidney injury, and low blood pressure. Another 23% showed evidence on lab tests of liver damage.


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The leading communicable disease specialist in France, Professor Didier Raoult, asked about another odd aspect of the remdesivir trial: “Could Anthony Fauci explain why the investigators of the NIAID remdesivir trial did change the primary outcome during the course of the project?” Death as the primary outcome was moved to a secondary outcome, and days to recovery became the primary trial outcome. Changing the primary outcome before trial results are completed is highly unusual and suggests “p-hacking”—manipulating the data to get a statistically significant “p value.


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In contrast, the multi-country compilation of evidence on HCQ and azithromycin in treatment of COVID-19 (updated Apr 27, 2020) has consistently shown that these older medicines prevent infections, significantly reduce severity of illness, reduce viral load and duration of infectivity, reduce number of hospitalizations, reduce ventilator use, and markedly reduce deaths. The data is far beyond “anecodotal,” as Dr. Fauci dismissively called it.


LINK
This post was edited on 6/29/20 at 3:11 pm
Posted by cajunangelle
Member since Oct 2012
146956 posts
Posted on 6/29/20 at 3:21 pm to


Drugs prices are cray. My Vet wrote some scripts for my animal. it was $391. I was told go to Wal-Mart or Costco they do pet meds.

So I called the vet and said and she told me it was a people drug so use the app called good Rx. The Rx price went down to $40. I couldn't believe goodRx actually worked. I want to try it with people Rx's with insurance now.
Posted by dcbl
Good guys wear white hats.
Member since Sep 2013
29698 posts
Posted on 6/29/20 at 4:06 pm to
HCQ absolutely works for most people

quit lying
Posted by longwayfromLA
NYC
Member since Nov 2007
3331 posts
Posted on 6/29/20 at 4:58 pm to
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HCQ absolutely works for most people

quit lying



Lying? What do I know? I'm not drug researcher. On the other hand, the agency we've set up specifically to evaluate these things has concluded that it doesn't help and revoked support for its use in treating covid-19. Many EU countries have concluded the same and done the same. I'm inclined to trust them more than you random stranger who definitely doesn't study drug effectiveness for a living.
Posted by longwayfromLA
NYC
Member since Nov 2007
3331 posts
Posted on 6/29/20 at 5:06 pm to
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A Tale of Two Drugs: Money vs. Medical Wisdom; Hydroxychloroquine and Remdesivir


Interesting that she chose to publish in the free republic as opposed to a credible medical journal.
Posted by IslandBuckeye
Boca Chica, Panama
Member since Apr 2018
10067 posts
Posted on 6/29/20 at 5:47 pm to
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On the other hand, the agency we've set up specifically to evaluate these things has concluded that it doesn't help and revoked support for its use in treating covid-19.


Based on a study in Lancet that was subsequently pulled for questionable methods. Go ahead and trust WHO/CDC/FDA.

HCQ will most likely not help those with more advance disease requiring O2 or vented, but so far Remdesivir did not do well with those patients either.

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I'm not drug researcher.


So maybe now is a good time to quit posting like you are. Thanks and have a pleasant evening.
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