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re: This is what got Patel and Bongino to cave on Epstein suicide.

Posted on 5/22/25 at 8:27 am to
Posted by ChineseBandit58
Pearland, TX
Member since Aug 2005
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Posted on 5/22/25 at 8:27 am to
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I truly believe Epstein is a hot potato because it's not nearly as salacious as it's been built to be for 20 years and anyone who releases the info will get comments like this thread

I cannot understand the rational of this statement.

= you are conceding that "Epstein" is a 'hot potato'
= you are implying that its not "nearly as salacious" as advertised
= but you conclude that 'anyone who releases the info will get comments like this thread"
= by which your conclusion is what?

1 - you could conclude that this 'proves' it is a conspiracy theory by just releasing the list.

OR

2 - you could suggest that since they are not releasing the list there is some other logical conclusion that is not in the realm of a 'conspiracy theory'

BUT -

you do not present that logical conclusion.

This post was edited on 5/22/25 at 8:31 am
Posted by deathvalleytiger10
Member since Sep 2009
9071 posts
Posted on 5/22/25 at 8:32 am to
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However, we still prosecuted Epstein and Maxwell (and convicted her). The Israel issue/problem clearly had a limit and we eventually said "frick it".


Yes, we prosecuted them and put a stop to it.

Now, do we go further and lay it all out for the public to see? Doubtful.

Hope I am wrong.
Posted by lake chuck fan
Vinton
Member since Aug 2011
21490 posts
Posted on 5/22/25 at 8:35 am to
Those videos probably contain much blackmail ammo, would expose certain actions known, overlooked, and condoned by the US intelligence which would not look good on the US.
Like it or hate it, the things folks want to see will never be released. For good and bad reasons. IMHO
Posted by leeman101
Huntsville, AL
Member since Aug 2020
2435 posts
Posted on 5/22/25 at 8:35 am to
Could they (Trump and his people) be sitting on this for the mid term elections to see how it goes. If congress goes to the democrats then stuff like the Epstein files gives them leverage against an impeachment and other things.
Posted by themunch
bottom of the list
Member since Jan 2007
71349 posts
Posted on 5/22/25 at 8:36 am to
.yet they were not trafficked to anyone.

This is what is at issue. Not that these two facilitated it but WHO
Posted by AU86
Member since Aug 2009
26257 posts
Posted on 5/22/25 at 8:36 am to
Frauds.

All talk. No action.

Just like Finger Wagging Pam
This post was edited on 5/22/25 at 8:37 am
Posted by hogcard1964
Alabama
Member since Jan 2017
17576 posts
Posted on 5/22/25 at 8:38 am to
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SlowFlow, surely you can't be that dense


You're obviously new here.
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
138911 posts
Posted on 5/22/25 at 8:39 am to
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I truly believe Epstein is a hot potato because it's not nearly as salacious as it's been built to be for 20 years and anyone who releases the info will get comments like this thread. It's almost assured that the truth is nowhere near what y'all believe it to be and the lack of evidence will be see as evidence of a conspiracy. This purported laundry list of big names being part of the terrible crimes likely just doesn't exist.


This is like a red herring.

The Epstein situation was an obvious honeypot scheme. The reason "investigators" get cock blocked at every turn concerning this topic is due to the fact that our own government employees in the intelligence community allowed statutory rape of little girls to gain leverage over rich and powerful people.

Yes, there are evil and criminal elements within our own federal government.
Posted by BamaGradinTn
Murfreesboro
Member since Dec 2008
28681 posts
Posted on 5/22/25 at 8:41 am to
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I still dont understand how Maxwell can be charged with trafficking young girls......yet they were not trafficked to anyone.


Or that they were all trafficked to Epstein and Prince Andrew alone.
Posted by riccoar
Arkansas
Member since Mar 2006
4683 posts
Posted on 5/22/25 at 8:44 am to
Anyone would have to at least say that Epstein hanging was suspicious. No camera feed lost except for the time Epstein hung himself.

Nothing suspect about that?
Posted by extremetigerfanatic
Member since Oct 2003
5851 posts
Posted on 5/22/25 at 9:02 am to
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Or that they were all trafficked to Epstein and Prince Andrew alone.


This is just stupid.

We know Jeffrey had an island of depravity. We know Maxwell helped him procure the girls. We know many many many important people worldwide went to the island

Now Jeff is suicided.
AND the main girl who came public with accusations on both who also sued Maxwell for defamation also is suicided as of last month. Less than 30 days ago. And no one is even really reporting it.

Convincing yourself this was just for Jeffrey or Andrew is like convincing yourself the Wuhan virus didn’t actually come from the Wuhan lab.

It’s intentional ignorance.


It’s pretty obvious that everyone that ends up seeing the proof just gets caught up in it’s too big to reveal. Whether that’s Israel or our own CIA or congressional people, who knows. But it’s obvious they don’t want the world to know and they have the sway to keep it under wraps.

The fact we don’t know almost in itself proves it actually is salacious. Maybe enough to start a war.

This is the same as the Kennedy assassination. There is a conspiracy. And we will prob never know the truth.
This post was edited on 5/22/25 at 9:07 am
Posted by Midget Death Squad
Meme Magic
Member since Oct 2008
28146 posts
Posted on 5/22/25 at 9:08 am to
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I truly believe Epstein is a hot potato because it's not nearly as salacious as it's been built to be for 20 years



^how to spot someone who's on the list
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
466906 posts
Posted on 5/22/25 at 9:42 am to
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.yet they were not trafficked to anyone.

This is what is at issue. Not that these two facilitated it but WHO

Maxwell trafficked girls to Epstein (and, almost assuredly, Prince Andrew)
This post was edited on 5/22/25 at 9:43 am
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
466906 posts
Posted on 5/22/25 at 9:45 am to
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= you are conceding that "Epstein" is a 'hot potato'

Who disagrees that it's a hot potato?

The question is why.

quote:

you are implying that its not "nearly as salacious" as advertised

After all this time and all that's come out, it's my belief the issue is that the details that reflect reality will never live up to the purported allegations of conspiracy theorists.

I also do believe Israel was involved which complicates things.

quote:

but you conclude that 'anyone who releases the info will get comments like this thread"

If my belief is true, then yes. What is illogical about the conclusion that all the CT minded people who expect more wouldn't make threads like these or ones relating to the larger conspiracy covering up the facts that don't exist?

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by which your conclusion is what?


quote:

I truly believe Epstein is a hot potato because it's not nearly as salacious as it's been built to be for 20 years and anyone who releases the info will get comments like this thread


quote:

2 - you could suggest that since they are not releasing the list there is some other logical conclusion that is not in the realm of a 'conspiracy theory'


quote:

I truly believe Epstein is a hot potato because it's not nearly as salacious as it's been built to be for 20 years and anyone who releases the info will get comments like this thread
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
466906 posts
Posted on 5/22/25 at 9:47 am to
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The Epstein situation was an obvious honeypot scheme

Likely, but, as I said, "the list" is the part that's up for debate.

I currently believe the reason that pols can't/won't release the details is because they will never satisfy the appetite of the CTs that have built this up for decades, at this point. And anyone who can't satisfy that appetite will become part of a larger conspiracy (like the premise of this thread).

quote:

The reason "investigators" get cock blocked at every turn concerning this topic is due to the fact that our own government employees in the intelligence community allowed statutory rape of little girls to gain leverage over rich and powerful people.

And if they release information that refutes this, you will accept that information? Or claim it's part of a larger conspiracy?

Posted by TigerAxeOK
Where I lay my head is home.
Member since Dec 2016
35600 posts
Posted on 5/22/25 at 9:49 am to
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It's almost assured that the truth is nowhere near what y'all believe it to be and the lack of evidence will be see as evidence of a conspiracy.

Here's the evidence.



And Epstein certainly didn't kill himself. He either got Arkancided or is out there right now on another private island with a full beard and some cosmetic surgery, living it up.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
466906 posts
Posted on 5/22/25 at 9:49 am to
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Anyone would have to at least say that Epstein hanging was suspicious.


I agree. The primary fuel of conspiracy theories is a combination of coincidences (perceived or valid), and lack of evidence. Combine these 2 with a kernel of truth and you can go anywhere.

The problem is that not every situation with coincidences, a lack of evidence, and a kernel of truth IS a conspiracy theory. Per Kash/Bongino, the Epstein suicide is one of those examples.

Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
466906 posts
Posted on 5/22/25 at 9:50 am to
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^how to spot someone who's on the list


A nobody who grew up poor in South LA?

Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
466906 posts
Posted on 5/22/25 at 9:52 am to
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AND the main girl who came public with accusations on both who also sued Maxwell for defamation also is suicided as of last month

And this really doesn't impact the larger story, as her story has already been told. She's given testimony and Epstein/Maxwell were prosecuted (Maxwell convicted).

quote:

It’s pretty obvious that everyone that ends up seeing the proof just gets caught up in it’s too big to reveal.

Why would Trump be scared? Are his allies on the list?
Posted by omegaman66
greenwell springs
Member since Oct 2007
26327 posts
Posted on 5/22/25 at 9:58 am to
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One thing for sure, this ^ is either true or it's just too big and implicates too many people. Probably the former.


If it is the former why can't we see it it? Not a single John has been prosecuted and you and sfp both think it is a nothing burger.

So that leave two option either yall are both as stupid as your statements or yall are wanting this to be swept under the rug.
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