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re: This is Murder
Posted on 11/28/21 at 10:56 am to diat150
Posted on 11/28/21 at 10:56 am to diat150
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That dude is full of shite. Less than 2 seconds before he was shot the victim was fighting for the shooters weapon and had flung the shooter off of his front porch in an attempt to pull the weapon from him. And that is a few seconds after he approached the armed shooter and told him he would take the gun away and kill him with it. Less than 2 seconds. Read didnt retreat at all, he overtook the mans porch while trying to separate the shooter from his weapon.
We shall see, but, looking at the tape, there was no imminence of a deadly threat WHEN Carruth pulled the trigger. You may think Branca is full of shite, but he is one of the foremost authorities on self defense law in the country.
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Posted on 11/28/21 at 10:59 am to stlslick
Thank God this guy had a gun. It's a shame more guns weren't involved and maybe this ends differently. If the kids had s gun they could have freed themselves from the house. Maybe if boyfriend had s gun too they could have settled it with a shootout. Only thing I'm sure of is this situation needed more guns to resolve it safely.
Posted on 11/28/21 at 11:01 am to oklahogjr
Too bad the slut ex wasn't hit also.
Posted on 11/28/21 at 11:02 am to BradBallard
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We shall see, but, looking at the tape, there was no imminence of a deadly threat WHEN Carruth pulled the trigger. You may think Branca is full of shite, but he is one of the foremost authorities on self defense law in the country.
was Read a threat 1 second earlier when his hands were on the weapon? self defense laws are in real trouble if a person has 1 second to make a decision on if someone went from being a threat to not a threat when 1 second earlier they were wrestling for the weapon and flung a man off his front porch.
Posted on 11/28/21 at 11:09 am to oklahogjr
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It's a shame more guns weren't involved and maybe this ends differently.
The real shame is that you don't play in traffic enough to get hit by a large truck. TD, the world really, would be so much better off.
Posted on 11/28/21 at 11:48 am to diat150
quote:More than enough. The shooter gathered himself, took aim, and fired two shots while the other guy never took a step towards him.
go ahead and tell us how many seconds elapsed between the time that Reads hands were off of the gun and Carruth shot him?
Posted on 11/28/21 at 12:08 pm to oklahogjr
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oklahogjr
Cry like a bitch all you want but you'll never get mine
Posted on 11/28/21 at 12:25 pm to mmcgrath
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More than enough. The shooter gathered himself, took aim, and fired two shots while the other guy never took a step towards him.
So 1 Second is enough? In your opinion at what point from when the shooter was able to jerk the gun away and he fired was the shooting justified? .25 seconds? .5 ssconds? .75 seconds? Or was the shooting not justified even when the victim threatened to take and use the gun on the shooter and attempted to do just that.
Posted on 11/28/21 at 12:27 pm to diat150
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So 1 Second is enough? In your opinion at what point from when the shooter was able to jerk the gun away and he fired was the shooting justified? .25 seconds? .5 ssconds? .75 seconds? Or was the shooting not justified even when the victim threatened to take and use the gun on the shooter and attempted to do just that.
I suppose you'll be shooting your girlfriends baby daddy because you don't like he came to your house (where she clearly is) too.
Posted on 11/28/21 at 12:35 pm to BradBallard
Im not a lawyer, but this seems pretty open shut for self defense in Texas. The home owner asked the trespasser to leave, he refused, the homeowner retrieved a firearm and demanded the trespasser leave AGAIN. The trespasser then proceeded to approach and assault the homeowner. The homeowner has every right in Texas to have a firearm on his property.
Would it have escalated to the point of physical altercation if the firearm hadn’t been present? Maybe or maybe not, but that doesn’t revoke the mans right to self defense just to find out. It’s not like the guy brought a gun from his car into the other guys house and started this.
Would it have escalated to the point of physical altercation if the firearm hadn’t been present? Maybe or maybe not, but that doesn’t revoke the mans right to self defense just to find out. It’s not like the guy brought a gun from his car into the other guys house and started this.
Posted on 11/28/21 at 12:36 pm to Bulldogblitz
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suppose you'll be shooting your girlfriends baby daddy because you don't like he came to your house (where she clearly is) too.
I suppose you will give him a blowjob.
Posted on 11/28/21 at 2:17 pm to stlslick
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You rednecks are going to learn the hard way, about when you can use deadly force.
Why are you here threatening people?
Posted on 11/28/21 at 2:31 pm to diat150
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was Read a threat 1 second earlier when his hands were on the weapon? self defense laws are in real trouble if a person has 1 second to make a decision on if someone went from being a threat to not a threat when 1 second earlier they were wrestling for the weapon and flung a man off his front porch.
Why are you ignoring the fact that the shooter escalated the situation to 11 by going in the house to get the gun?
The shooter escalated this to an unnecessary level and this whole situation feels premeditated.
Shooter need to go down for a life without bid.
This post was edited on 11/28/21 at 2:52 pm
Posted on 11/28/21 at 3:34 pm to jclem11
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Why are you ignoring the fact that the shooter escalated the situation to 11 by going in the house to get the gun?
The shooter escalated this to an unnecessary level and this whole situation feels premeditated.
Shooter need to go down for a life without bid.
The shooter was well within his right to get his weapon. The fact that the guy attacked him even though he was armed just goes to show that the victim was a lunatic.
Posted on 11/28/21 at 3:36 pm to oklahogjr
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oklahogjr
Do you need a tampon? You sound like you need a tampon
Posted on 11/28/21 at 3:46 pm to stlslick
I don’t know if this vantage point from Lubbock news station has been released but it shows two angles.
The shooter can easily win this as self defense. He has the right to protect his home and that dude was asking for it.
Custody battles…no one wins. All parties lose. Kids get shite on.
This story has some spice to it. Shooter used to be married to a well-known judge; Chad also looks to be a lot older than his ex. He may have outkicked his coverage. She seems a bit off. A bit.
Anyway here’s link:
LINK
The shooter can easily win this as self defense. He has the right to protect his home and that dude was asking for it.
Custody battles…no one wins. All parties lose. Kids get shite on.
This story has some spice to it. Shooter used to be married to a well-known judge; Chad also looks to be a lot older than his ex. He may have outkicked his coverage. She seems a bit off. A bit.
Anyway here’s link:
LINK
Posted on 11/28/21 at 3:48 pm to mmcgrath
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More than enough. The shooter gathered himself, took aim, and fired two shots while the other guy never took a step towards him.
Should he not have gathered himself and mistakenly shot someone else instead?
It was a good shot. Read over Texas law. The guy was threatening and on HIS property. And the dude GRABBED at the gun twice!
You liberals cannot help but put emotion into a case. The shooter sounds like a bigger POS than the victim but the law is the law. Ground was stood!
This post was edited on 11/28/21 at 3:48 pm
Posted on 11/28/21 at 3:51 pm to PiscesTiger
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The shooter can easily win this as self defense. He has the right to protect his home and that dude was asking for it.
So custodial parent can just say "nah, you can't have your kid, get off my yard", then fire shots. Good deal.
Posted on 11/28/21 at 3:52 pm to diat150
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The shooter was well within his right to get his weapon. The fact that the guy attacked him even though he was armed just goes to show that the victim was a lunatic.
You sure as hell don’t grab at a dude’s weapon. He doesn’t do that, he’s still alive.
The mother is a piece of work.
Posted on 11/28/21 at 3:53 pm to Bulldogblitz
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custodial parent can just say "nah, you can't have your kid, get off my yard", then fire shots. Good deal.
Yeah because that’s what happened.
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