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re: This is for you Panicans and naysayers Iran cannot get a bomb

Posted on 6/21/25 at 11:44 am to
Posted by lake chuck fan
Vinton
Member since Aug 2011
21628 posts
Posted on 6/21/25 at 11:44 am to
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The idea that Iran will launch a nuclear weapon on Israel is thinking like an infant



So, we've watched Iran for decades sponsor, fund, promote(they directly created Hezbolla), terrorism and also listened to them chant death to America and Israel, but we shouldn't believe they would use a nuke if they are allowed to crate one????

Lol, talk about thinking like an infant!!! Terrible argument. Try harder.
Posted by Pandy Fackler
Member since Jun 2018
21114 posts
Posted on 6/21/25 at 11:44 am to
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Sheesh, speak for yourself. The MAGA base largely does not support this. Only the neocons whispering in Trump’s ear.


He's listening too.
Posted by suavecito80
Member since Apr 2014
3234 posts
Posted on 6/21/25 at 11:48 am to
How convenient that they were found during the height of the war. What happened to them after they were found? All this stinks and it smells just like Iraq. This is basically Iraq 2.0 but Iran is a bigger country. I am beyond done with all these nonsense wars.
Posted by antibarner
Member since Oct 2009
26160 posts
Posted on 6/21/25 at 11:54 am to
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Shut the frick up moron


Want to actually see a moron? Find a mirror. As far as shutting up goes, frick you and your entire family tree past and future.
Posted by redneck hippie
Oklahoma
Member since Dec 2008
6300 posts
Posted on 6/21/25 at 11:56 am to
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It’s akin to the “this is America, love it or leave it!” response to anyone questioning military action by our country.


Remember freedom fries? The dumbest shite ever.

I have a feeling some of these gen z and millennials just weren’t alive or old enough to remember, we’ve already seen this movie.
Posted by 14&Counting
Dallas, TX
Member since Jul 2012
41574 posts
Posted on 6/21/25 at 11:59 am to
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This is basically Iraq 2.0 but Iran is a bigger country.


I think the WMD case is indisputable in Iran’s situation The question is do we view Iran as existential threat to America that is worth going to war over? Israel views Iran as an existential threat and can’t say I blame them. In Israel’s case Iran seems to be committed to their destruction.
This post was edited on 6/21/25 at 12:02 pm
Posted by ElonWelfareQueen
Member since Apr 2025
25 posts
Posted on 6/21/25 at 12:00 pm to
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Unlike even Littte Rocket Man If the Ayatollah gets a bomb or bombs, he will use them. He won't hesitate,.

He obviously has the missiles to strike Israel and it only takes one to get through....no more Tel Aviv or even Jerusalem, or both. Riyadh, anywhere in range of those missiles.

They have to be stopped. We have to stop them.


If Iran wanted nukes, they would have had them long ago. They've never made a move to have the capability of strapping material atop a missile so it can be launched at Iraq, Israel, or any other location.
Watching some of you is like going back in time to 2003 and the legion of supremely gullible and profoundly stupid people that were all too eager to swallow the lies and take us to Iraq.
If these events were taking place with Biden, MAGA would be throwing a fit, but since it's Trump, MAGA now embraces Graham and Bolton.
The lesson for Iran is that it's better to go ahead and get some nukes. When the dust settles, they'll probably work with Russia, China, or Pakistan to make that happen.

The status quo with Iran, regarding nukes, was working. This is four minutes worth your time, explaining that Iran doesn't want nukes, some of the details on how things worked in their nuke program, and they don't have the capability of building one that can go atop a missile, etc.
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Posted by aTmTexas Dillo
East Texas Lake
Member since Sep 2018
22882 posts
Posted on 6/21/25 at 12:03 pm to
It's good to talk this issue through on this board. It has no effect on what will happen. Some will be happy with what we do, some won't. Whoever is not happy, find another political party.
Posted by 14&Counting
Dallas, TX
Member since Jul 2012
41574 posts
Posted on 6/21/25 at 12:03 pm to
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The lesson for Iran is that it's better to go ahead and get some nukes


Ask Ukraine how giving up their nukes worked out.
Posted by antibarner
Member since Oct 2009
26160 posts
Posted on 6/21/25 at 12:03 pm to
LINK

quote:

The newspaper suggested several reasons why the U.S. government might have wanted to suppress the chemical weapons finds.

For one, in five of the six cases in which troops were wounded by chemical agents, ” the munitions appeared to have been designed in the United States, manufactured in Europe and filled in chemical agent production lines built in Iraq by Western companies,” the newspaper reported.

For another, the weapons were old – made before 1991 – and therefore did not back up U.S. intelligence that at the time suggested Iraq had an active weapons of mass destruction program.


They werent making them........but that paragraph sure makes one wonder..and the stuff was certainly still dangerous,.
Posted by jcaz
Laffy
Member since Aug 2014
18860 posts
Posted on 6/21/25 at 12:05 pm to
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If the Ayatollah gets a bomb or bombs, he will use them. He won't hesitate,.

I honestly don't think I agree with that. They would go all out with their terrorism activities and proxies and use the nuke as MAD for their own backyard. Self-preservation while using proxies to do the dirty work.

Kinda like the CIA
Posted by 14&Counting
Dallas, TX
Member since Jul 2012
41574 posts
Posted on 6/21/25 at 12:10 pm to
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I honestly don't think I agree with that. They would go all out with their terrorism activities and proxies and use the nuke as MAD for their own backyard. Self-preservation while using proxies to do the dirty work.


So does it make sense to take out their capability so they will be defenseless and stop funding proxies like Hamas and Hezbollah?

Just posing the question?
This post was edited on 6/21/25 at 12:11 pm
Posted by Tandemjay
Member since Jun 2022
4639 posts
Posted on 6/21/25 at 12:12 pm to
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American troops found nearly 5,000 abandoned chemical weapons in Iraq from 2004 to 2011, but their discoveries were kept secret by the U.S. government, the New York Times reports.

Nice try, right from your link,

"The discovery of pre-Gulf War chemical weapons — most of them "filthy, rusty or corroded" — did not fit the narrative." Gulf War was 90'-91'.

These were from the 80's, when we were giving Iraq chemical weapons to use against Iran.
Posted by Srbtiger06
Member since Apr 2006
29032 posts
Posted on 6/21/25 at 12:18 pm to
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Panicans


quote:

Unlike even Littte Rocket Man If the Ayatollah gets a bomb or bombs, he will use them. He won't hesitate,.

He obviously has the missiles to strike Israel and it only takes one to get through....no more Tel Aviv or even Jerusalem, or both. Riyadh, anywhere in range of those missiles.

They have to be stopped. We have to stop them.
Posted by TenWheelsForJesus
Member since Jan 2018
10443 posts
Posted on 6/21/25 at 12:19 pm to
quote:

Can we please, for the love of God, stop using the use of the word “panican”?


Sure, as soon as the panicans stop melting down about everything.

quote:

 It’s like “RINO” or “fascist” and it’s just a lazy way of saying you disagree with someone.


Nah, I've called people panicans and explained why they were retarded. You can do both if you're not lazy.
Posted by Esquire
Chiraq
Member since Apr 2014
14421 posts
Posted on 6/21/25 at 12:22 pm to
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Can we please, for the love of God, stop using the use of the word “panican”?


It’s a great way to identify the low-IQ.
Posted by blzr
Saratoga
Member since Mar 2011
30744 posts
Posted on 6/21/25 at 12:23 pm to
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Want to actually see a moron? Find a mirror. As far as shutting up goes, frick you and your entire family tree past and future.


Keep sucking that joo cock neocon
This post was edited on 6/21/25 at 12:24 pm
Posted by Cuz413
Member since Nov 2007
10039 posts
Posted on 6/21/25 at 12:35 pm to
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Trump has said from his first term, and he continues today, they can't be allowed to have nukes. he's right.


So why not do something in 2017? 2018? 2019? 2020?
Posted by Ag Zwin
Member since Mar 2016
25472 posts
Posted on 6/21/25 at 12:39 pm to
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P A N I C A N..it fits....it's accurate. I guarantee if we sit this out and those lunatics nuke someone the ones crying about us going in will be the very first screaming woulda coulda shoulda.

The debate itself is parenthetical to the point being made.

His point is that you argue like a child. You’re no different than the NPC’s on the left that throw out “Hitler” and “facist” all the time.

Want me to take your argument seriously? Put it out there like an adult.
This post was edited on 6/21/25 at 12:40 pm
Posted by AU86
Member since Aug 2009
26257 posts
Posted on 6/21/25 at 12:41 pm to
I have a sneaky suspicion that a lot of old pictures/portraits of Bush and Cheney have been brought out of the closet, dusted off and are back hanging above the mantle.
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