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This doesn’t seem like negotiating from a position of strength

Posted on 6/17/26 at 6:58 pm
Posted by boosiebadazz
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Posted on 6/17/26 at 6:58 pm


But I’m here to learn why I’m really wrong
Posted by SDVTiger
Cabo San Lucas
Member since Nov 2011
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Posted on 6/17/26 at 6:59 pm to
The leftards are now siding with the JOOOOSSSS that are so mad about this deal

so pathetic
Posted by holdmuh keystonelite
Member since Oct 2020
4887 posts
Posted on 6/17/26 at 6:59 pm to
Coincides with Jesse Kelly posting this earlier.

"Not sure people understand the CATASTROPHIC consequences of the global oil reserves running dry. I think if more people grasped the fallout from that, they’d understand Trump’s desperation to take a bad deal.

The mistake wasn’t ending it. The mistake was going to begin with."
Posted by Ingeniero
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2013
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Posted on 6/17/26 at 7:00 pm to
Iran was so desperately begging for a deal that we had to relax sanctions and unfreeze funds. We sure showed those camel jockeys
Posted by Stidham8
Member since Aug 2018
10482 posts
Posted on 6/17/26 at 7:00 pm to
We got out when we realized our selective bombing strategy was getting us nowhere.

Now here we are.

Imagine having Japan surrounded in 1945 and we decide to give them hundreds of billions to rebuild and keep their current government in place. That’s the parallel here.
This post was edited on 6/17/26 at 7:01 pm
Posted by bamatrader
Member since May 2026
80 posts
Posted on 6/17/26 at 7:01 pm to
Well, at least he admitted he could not open the strait and that we were defeated on that front. First honest thing he's said about this whole frick up in months.
Posted by AGGIES
Member since Jul 2021
12595 posts
Posted on 6/17/26 at 7:02 pm to
Trump likes to publicly provide the key to unlock his bargaining position.

Is he siding with the Iranians also?
Posted by bluestem75
Dallas, TX
Member since Oct 2007
5172 posts
Posted on 6/17/26 at 7:02 pm to
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Imagine having Japan surrounded in 1945 and we decide to give them hundreds of billions to rebuild and keep their current government in place. That’s the parallel here.


Iran bombed one of our military bases and we spent 5 years pushing them back across a large ocean? Not seeing the parallel.
This post was edited on 6/17/26 at 7:03 pm
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
478687 posts
Posted on 6/17/26 at 7:04 pm to
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The mistake wasn’t ending it. The mistake was going to begin with."


Posted by SDVTiger
Cabo San Lucas
Member since Nov 2011
98902 posts
Posted on 6/17/26 at 7:04 pm to
Hes aiding with Isreal, Qatar, Iran everyone owns him!!

You are another moron
Posted by AGGIES
Member since Jul 2021
12595 posts
Posted on 6/17/26 at 7:05 pm to
Yup. All of us dummies are back here watching the master at work…
Posted by soonerinlOUisiana
South of I-10
Member since Aug 2012
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Posted on 6/17/26 at 7:07 pm to
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Iran was so desperately begging for a deal that we had to relax sanctions and unfreeze funds. We sure showed those camel jockeys


They have no nukes. Their old guard are all dead. Their new guard know that they can easily be dead. Their military is decimated. Gas prices are plummeting. Indeed, we did show them, dickbreath. Sorry that Trump still has you by the pussy.
Posted by Stidham8
Member since Aug 2018
10482 posts
Posted on 6/17/26 at 7:07 pm to
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Iran bombed one of our military bases and we spent 5 years pushing them back across a large ocean? Not seeing the parallel.


The precursors obviously aren’t the same. I’m talking the end results.

With that said, Iran has done a lot of killing throughout the Middle East and attacked our bases, by the way.

Additionally, Japan wasn’t trying to develop nuclear weapons.
Posted by Speckhunter2012
Lake Charles
Member since Dec 2012
8768 posts
Posted on 6/17/26 at 7:08 pm to
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But I’m here to learn why I’m really wrong


They have no navy other than some bay boats that get whacked.
They have no air force other than some drones here and there.
They have no Nukes as it is all dust in the wind.

What exactly is the threat PDJT is giving up on?

We could annihilate Iran, now, within days.
Your benevolent overlord is giving them a chance at redemption for the sins of their past 47 years and rid themselves of the Mullah ghey boy loving leaders.

That make sense? It does to those who can reason.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
478687 posts
Posted on 6/17/26 at 7:09 pm to
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Your benevolent overlord is giving them a chance at redemption for the sins of their past 47 years




You're on step 3

quote:

and rid themselves of the Mullah ghey boy loving leaders.

They're in power still
Posted by jlnoles79
Member since Jan 2014
14526 posts
Posted on 6/17/26 at 7:09 pm to
quote:

Imagine having Japan surrounded in 1945 and we decide to give them hundreds of billions to rebuild and keep their current government in place. That’s the parallel here.


If Vance had led the negotiation, Hawai'i would be a Japanese prefecture
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
41927 posts
Posted on 6/17/26 at 7:10 pm to
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Imagine having Japan surrounded in 1945 and we decide to give them hundreds of billions to rebuild and keep their current government in place. That’s the parallel here.


Thats quite the leap to equate Imperial Japan to modern Iran.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
478687 posts
Posted on 6/17/26 at 7:11 pm to
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Thats quite the leap to equate Imperial Japan to modern Iran.


Why? Because Iran is weaker?
Posted by Speckhunter2012
Lake Charles
Member since Dec 2012
8768 posts
Posted on 6/17/26 at 7:11 pm to
quote:


Yup. All of us dummies are back here watching the master at work…


And just what was your opinion of *Sleepy Joe and BHO's dealings with Iran?

Please tell.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
478687 posts
Posted on 6/17/26 at 7:12 pm to
quote:

And just what was your opinion of *Sleepy Joe and BHO's dealings with Iran?

Please tell.


Obama gave $1.7B of Iran's money back

Trump gave $100B of Iran's money back AND lifted all sanctions
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