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Posted on 12/14/18 at 12:57 pm to texridder
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Bush deregulated Wall Street. How did that work out?
What in the hell?
Posted on 12/14/18 at 1:03 pm to MF Doom
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Nobody can tell me how this helps regular people other than vague bullshite
Here’s a straight up easily digestible fact
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In the five years after the FCC first proposed Title II (2010–15), investment dropped somewhere between $160-$200 billion relative to what it would have been projecting forward from 2005–10, when net neutrality alone was the baseline for investor expectations. Discouraging investment only exacerbates the Digital Divide?—?which is why Bill Clinton’s FCC Chairman Bill Kennard didn’t want to dump the “morass” of Title II on broadband and why Democrats like John Kerry and Ron Wyden opposed Title II back in the 1990s.
The irony of all those opposed to comcast Verizon etc is that requirements of regulation and reporting under title II prevent any small guy from entering the market and only allows companies as large as the aforementioned to pay for the large departments to keep them within the regulations
Posted on 12/14/18 at 1:05 pm to crazy4lsu
quote:I distrust them too
My argument wasn't about speeds, but rather, distrusting the concentration of power in media,
I distrust govt more
Posted on 12/14/18 at 1:07 pm to ShortyRob
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Bush deregulated Wall Street. How did that work out?
So you don't enough about this to even make a real post? Then why post at all?
Posted on 12/14/18 at 1:08 pm to ShortyRob
Damn, now that you mention it, that has certainly been his M.O. in most of the threads I've tussled with him
Posted on 12/14/18 at 1:09 pm to Adam Banks
quote:The fundamental failure of the NN types and for that matter, Americans in general when looking at large companies is this.
The irony of all those opposed to comcast Verizon etc is that requirements of regulation and reporting under title II prevent any small guy from entering the market and only allows companies as large as the aforementioned to pay for the large departments to keep them within the regulations
Despite history being replete with examples...........Americans cannot fathom how large companies can be overtaken.
There is a great video of Phil Donahue talking to Friedman in the early 80s in which Phil asks Friedman if the govt should be OK if Sears were to join with K-Mart(yeah, talk about prescient).
Phil could not conceive of even the IDEA that either of these companies could be competed with. WalMart wasn't even a figment of their imagination.
Moreover. Had you implied to Phil then that one day, this small company that was doing it's thing in Arkansas would one day overtake Sears and K-Mart, he and his ilk would have laughed you out of the room.
Now, this might have been excusable as a point of view in 1900. But in 2018, to still be unable to comprehend this reality is just ignorance.
Posted on 12/14/18 at 1:09 pm to texridder
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So you don't enough about this to even make a real post?
Speak English and stay on topic, clown.
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Then why post at all?
I agree. You should quit.
Posted on 12/14/18 at 1:10 pm to TbirdSpur2010
quote:Yup. There's 2 or 3 like him on this board.
Damn, now that you mention it, that has certainly been his M.O. in most of the threads I've tussled with him
They basically view derailing threads as their jobs it would seem.
Posted on 12/14/18 at 1:10 pm to Adam Banks
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The irony of all those opposed to comcast Verizon etc is that requirements of regulation and reporting under title II prevent any small guy from entering the market and only allows companies as large as the aforementioned to pay for the large departments to keep them within the regulations
So you think Verizon lobbied against their own interest?
Posted on 12/14/18 at 1:11 pm to ShortyRob
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They basically view derailing threads as their jobs it would seem.
Sorry for ruining your circle-jerk crybaby
Posted on 12/14/18 at 1:11 pm to MF Doom
quote:I can do this too!
So you think Verizon lobbied against their own interest?
So, you think Facebook and Google lobbied against theirs!!
I love me some simplistic arguments.
Posted on 12/14/18 at 1:12 pm to RogerTheShrubber
quote:he made Donaldson (of Donaldson, Lufkin and Jenrette) as commissioner of the SEC. Donaldson initiated a program where the all Street firm provided their own valuation of their assets.
What in the hell?
You know, the ones we spent mega-billions of dollars bailing out and who sold tons of shite to Fannie and Freddie.
Posted on 12/14/18 at 1:12 pm to MF Doom
quote:You're on topic so, I really have no idea what you're talking about. It wasn't directed at you.
Sorry for ruining your circle-jerk crybaby
Posted on 12/14/18 at 1:13 pm to TbirdSpur2010
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Damn, now that you mention it, that has certainly been his M.O. in most of the threads I've tussled with him
Told ya
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he made Donaldson (of Donaldson, Lufkin and Jenrette) as commissioner of the SEC. Donaldson initiated a program where the all Street firm provided their own valuation of their assets. You know, the ones we spent mega-billions of dollars bailing out and who sold tons of shite to Fannie and Freddie.
Posted on 12/14/18 at 1:13 pm to ShortyRob
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But I'm fairly certain that StraightCashHomey wanted me dead in those threads.
dude is a bitch. He was so angry that we wouldnt have a EU style system to monitor everything online.
Posted on 12/14/18 at 1:14 pm to ShortyRob
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You're on topic so, I really have no idea what you're talking about. It wasn't directed at you.
Seems like he might have ran out of arguments for his "point" and felt it best to jump in with Tex's stupidity instead. I couldn't figure out why else he'd jump into knight for that pointless shite in this discussion.
Posted on 12/14/18 at 1:14 pm to CptBengal
quote:And, the dude could NOT conceptualize that competition doesn't have to be equal to influence the market.
dude is a bitch. He was so angry that we wouldnt have a EU style system to monitor everything online.
It was a sight.
Posted on 12/14/18 at 1:15 pm to ShortyRob
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And, he thought knowing how to write code trumped any and all knowledge of economics.
he doesnt even code. He does some basic copypasta scripting from what i gather.
Posted on 12/14/18 at 1:16 pm to MF Doom
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What freedom did we get from repealing NN?
Instead of the government censoring your internet now Google and Facebook censor your internet.
No change to speeds or prices.
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