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re: There’s still a lot of people who believe Biden won straight up….I have a question for you

Posted on 10/2/22 at 5:07 pm to
Posted by burke985
UGANDA
Member since Aug 2011
24781 posts
Posted on 10/2/22 at 5:07 pm to
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Trump just divided people so much it was insane.


Yeah he divided the working class and the leeches and all they could scream is races
Posted by ChineseBandit58
Pearland, TX
Member since Aug 2005
43098 posts
Posted on 10/2/22 at 8:12 pm to
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media just allowed it.

Allowed it?? hell, the media was the front lines in that battle.

Posted by Fat Bastard
coach, investor, gambler
Member since Mar 2009
73681 posts
Posted on 10/2/22 at 8:18 pm to
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Literally almost everyone. And yes to all of your questions. You have to be completely delusional to think the election was “stolen” at this point.




get help commie. you are MENTALLY FRIED AND SEVERELY ILL.

you are at the point of basically arguing that hitler was not a nazi if you think biden won fairly.

MUH NO FRAUD!!!!

debunk all that commie

so none of that happened?



Posted by keks tadpole
Yellow Leaf Creek
Member since Feb 2017
7597 posts
Posted on 10/2/22 at 8:21 pm to
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Why did the vote counters in Atalanta tell Republican watchdogs they were done counting for the night, go home?

Why were there so many CCTV cameras honed in on Ruby, her daughter and hand-off man, all day.
Posted by Strannix
District 11
Member since Dec 2012
49152 posts
Posted on 10/2/22 at 8:26 pm to
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Everyone I know voted for Biden


What cemetery do you live in?
Posted by davyjones
NELA
Member since Feb 2019
30490 posts
Posted on 10/2/22 at 8:33 pm to
Be careful with this dude, Stran. If I’m reading the situation correctly, this is a vampire. A government one at that. vampire. Never mix it up with the undead.
Posted by tarzana
TX Hwy 6--Brazos River Backwater
Member since Sep 2015
26473 posts
Posted on 10/2/22 at 9:56 pm to
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Biden won straight up

Why is this fact still in question?

The hard MAGA Right needs to get a life, and go with the flow, instead of recriminating over past disappointments and trying to create an alternate reality, with alternate outcomes.
Posted by Cromulent
Down the Bayou
Member since Oct 2016
2829 posts
Posted on 10/2/22 at 10:07 pm to
You are a good sheep. You project just as your leaders do. When was the last time you had an original thought?
Posted by LSUBALLER
Louisiana
Member since Jul 2013
16684 posts
Posted on 10/2/22 at 10:16 pm to
U have 81 million friends? Wow
Posted by texridder
The Woodlands, TX
Member since Oct 2017
14271 posts
Posted on 10/2/22 at 10:21 pm to
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Do you think Biden wins without the Zucker Bucks and Zucker Drop Boxes?

Were Zucker Bucks illegal? Did the Trump guys know about them before the election and object and take legal action? What was the actual effect of these funds on the election-in hard number votes?
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Do you think Biden wins without several swing states changing their voting process without the state legislature’s authority
In which particular states is there documented evidence of this happening? Did the Trump guys know and do anything to stop it? What is the quantified number of votes and the documented evidence these votes were affected?
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[quote]Do you think Biden wins if the Gaslight Media and Big Tech don’t squash the Hunter Biden Laptop From Hell scandal?

What exactly is documented about the authenticity of the entirety of the laptop contents? What was known about the authenticity of the entirety of the laptop contents a month before the election?
Posted by VoxDawg
Glory, Glory
Member since Sep 2012
61510 posts
Posted on 10/2/22 at 10:23 pm to
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Trump just divided people so much it was insane

So the nightly news told you every evening for 5 straight years and continues to do so to this day.
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
111795 posts
Posted on 10/2/22 at 10:33 pm to
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Now that Mark Zuckerberg-backed Center for Technology and Civic Life has released its federal tax forms detailing where its $350 million in election funding was spent, we would expect to see the usual claims of “nonpartisanship” and “money for safe elections in the midst of COVID-19” narrative being amplified by CTCL apologists. And we would not be disappointed. “Sensitive to the criticism that big CTCL money was intended to aid Joe Biden in his 2020 presidential campaign, Zuckerberg and [Priscilla] Chan [recently] tapped prominent Republican election lawyer Michael Toner to review the grants CTCL awarded last year to counties and other jurisdictions across the country,” according to the Washington Examiner.

Toner, former chairman of the Federal Election Commission, “discovered that more Republican jurisdictions, defined as municipalities that voted for Trump in 2020, applied for and received grants from CTCL [than Democratic jurisdictions].”

In addition, Ben Labolt, a spokesman for Zuckerberg and Chan, told Yahoo News that “nearly 2,500 election jurisdictions from 49 states applied for and received funds, including urban, suburban, rural, and exurban counties . . . and more Republican than Democratic jurisdictions applied for and received the funds.”

Claims such as these have been repeated ad nauseam, but they are absurd and deliberately misleading. It is like a wealthy man claiming that all of his 10 children were treated fairly in his will because they each received an inheritance from his $70 million fortune, when—upon closer inspection—it turns out that nine of his children received $5,000 each in Google Play cards, while one favored child received $69,955,000 in cash and securities.

Consider the role that CTCL played in Wisconsin, which was “ground zero” for CTCL’s assault on the U.S. election system. The first major CTCL grants went to “the Wisconsin Five” (Green Bay, Kenosha, Madison, Milwaukee, and Racine) in the summer of 2020, well before CTCL’s “open call” for grants went nationwide in September 2020. Their grant applications were solicited, encouraged, and incentivized by CTCL officials. This was an entirely top-down endeavor, initiated by CTCL, not by cash-starved election offices desperately seeking additional funding. A very similar game played out regarding CTCL involvement nationwide.

In Wisconsin, 216 communities got CTCL grants totaling around $10.3 million. But over 200 of these small $5,000 grants, which appear to have been handed out indiscriminately, accounted for only 10 percent of the group’s statewide spending.

Many of the grants did indeed go to so-called Republican jurisdictions, but a $5,000 lump sum payment is not enough to make a major difference in the functioning of an election office, where it would barely pay for a decent office copying machine.

On the other hand, the distribution of CTCL grant amounts, as opposed to the number of grants (regardless of grant size), shows systematic partisan bias in favor of Democrats.

Furthermore, grants such as Milwaukee’s $3,409,500 ($5.75 per capita), Green Bay’s $1,600,000 ($15.30 per capita), or Racine’s $1,669,100 ($21.74 per capita) represented huge inflows of money into their election offices—more than large enough to bend the behavior of election officials toward the will of CTCL officials to generate as many additional votes for Joe Biden as possible over Hilary Clinton’s 2016 Wisconsin totals.

There is no way to twist the data to fit the “nonpartisan” narrative.



Cont.
Posted by GregMaddux
LSU Fan
Member since Jun 2011
18225 posts
Posted on 10/2/22 at 10:36 pm to
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It was guy named “Not Donald Trump” on the ballot that everyone voted for


Im so sick of you fricking idiots
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
111795 posts
Posted on 10/2/22 at 10:37 pm to
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$8.8 million, or 85 percent of CTCL grant money in Wisconsin, went to “the Wisconsin Five,” all heavily Democratic cities, with a partisan bias favoring Democrats by 37 percentage points on average. $9.2 million, or about 90 percent of total CTCL spending in Wisconsin, went to 15 reliably Democratic cities, which are distributed among only 11 out of 72 of Wisconsin’s counties. Cities in the two most heavily Democratic counties in the state received a total of $4.79 million in CTCL grants, or 46.5 percent of total CTCL spending in Wisconsin, even though they make up only 25.6 percent of the state’s population. Between Dane and Milwaukee Counties, Joe Biden beat Donald Trump by 364,372 votes in a state that Biden won by less than 21,000 votes. As the recent flurry of pro-CTCL stories suggests, Democrats and their operatives in mainstream media will spare no effort to shield CTCL and the ZuckBuck-funded and COVID-19-battered 2020 election from serious scrutiny or criticism. They seem to know they cannot win a national election without duplicating 2020’s unique set of circumstances. As Nsé Ufot, CEO of the Stacey Abrams-founded New Georgia Project said in July, “If there isn’t a way for us to repeat what happened in November 2020, we’re f—ed.” What happened was this:

First, COVID-19 was used as a pretext in many states to put a moratorium on election integrity laws, guidelines, and ballot verification procedures that have been long-standing and time-tested. The result was chaos, especially in states that suddenly moved from very limited absentee voting toward near-universal absentee voting in a very short period of time, such as Wisconsin.

Second, CTCL arrived on the scene with $350 million of Mark Zuckerberg’s money, and a plan to infiltrate election offices in key areas with Democratic election activists sent along to take advantage of the chaos. This had nothing to do with traditional Democratic or Republican campaign spending. It was all about financing a takeover of local election offices by partisan activists armed with a plan to transform those election offices into sophisticated get-out-the-vote machines for Joe Biden.

To that end, those offices were then used as a platform to implement their preferred administrative practices, promote their preferred voting methods (especially absentee, mail-in voting), and implement sophisticated and expensive ballot harvesting efforts, as well as launch intensive multimedia outreach campaigns and surgically targeted, get out the vote efforts that were exclusively directed toward areas heavy with potential Democratic voters.

As a result of CTCL involvement, the outcome of the 2020 election is not the outcome that would have occurred if the election had been conducted on the basis of established election laws, equal treatment of voters, and administrative neutrality.

Again, Wisconsin provides a perfect example of how laser-targeted, conditional CTCL grants worked to swing the 2020 election in favor of Joe Biden. Wisconsin’s major grant recipients were required:

First, to “Encourage and Increase Absentee Voting (By Mail and Early, In-Person),” mainly through providing “assistance” in absentee ballot completion and submission, and the installation of ballot drop boxes.
Second, to “dramatically expand strategic voter education [and] outreach efforts, particularly to historically disenfranchised residents.”
Third, to recruit new election workers, mainly from among paid young activists who would replace the usual, older, election day volunteers.
CTCL was extremely effective in advancing its goals, especially with promoting absentee voting. Prior to 2020, the rate of absentee voting in Wisconsin was 4.6 percent on average in 2016, and 5.5 percent in 2018. Wisconsin had no experience with widespread absentee voting when the average statewide absentee voting rate suddenly soared to 58.9 percent in 2020.

Absentee voting rates were far higher than the statewide average among the CTCL funded Wisconsin five counties, where 70.6 percent of all ballots were absentee ballots. Biden’s vote margins were largest in Milwaukee and Dane counties, which each had absentee voting rates above 70 percent. In addition, four out of the five counties that experienced the largest Democratic shifts in 2020 were the four counties with the highest absentee voting rates.

The overall results were devastating for Donald Trump’s chances in Wisconsin, and perhaps for Republican chances in general in Wisconsin going forward:

Dane and Milwaukee Counties got 46.55 percent of total CTCL spending even though they make up only 25.6 percent of the state’s population. In return, they delivered Joe Biden a margin of victory over Donald Trump of 364,372 votes in a state that Biden won by less than 21,000 votes.
87 percent of cities that got substantial CTCL grants became more heavily Democratic. Even Republican majority cities like Wausau, Waukesha, and Brookfield (in Waukesha county) became less Republican in 2020. Waukesha County, Wisconsin’s reliably red and third most populous county, shifted Democrat by an astonishing 5.85 percent in 2020, while solidly red Marathon county also shifted Democrat. Even though they remained Republican counties, they are much less so now.
Extremely blue Dane County became even bluer, with the Democratic Party’s vote share increasing by a stunning 5.28 percent to a 56.21 point advantage. Populous Milwaukee County saw a 3 percent increase in the Democrats’ vote share to a 36.9 point advantage, again from an already very high level.
These partisan shifts are not caused by voters switching sides. Donald Trump increased his vote totals throughout the Wisconsin five counties compared to 2016 by more than 12 percentage points, with the exception of Dane County.
All told, we estimate that CTCL spending in Wisconsin generated an additional 65,222 votes for Joe Biden, without which Donald Trump would have defeated Biden in Wisconsin by 44,540 votes.

This estimate is closely aligned with our undisputed Texas results, where we were able to employ a more sophisticated methodology because of the wider distribution of large CTCL grants. We estimated that the additional Biden votes that could be attributed to CTCL in Texas were about 200,000, or 3.8 percent of his statewide total. In this case, where CTCL experienced far more favorable circumstances for their operations than in Texas, our estimate is 4 percent of Biden’s Wisconsin statewide total.

Unless the residual partisan impact of CTCL funding is reversed, one of the most significant effects of CTCL’s intervention in Wisconsin will have been to make its most populous counties significantly more Democratic than they were in 2016. These changes could have a decisive impact on elections in 2022 and 2024, especially if an organization like CTCL attempts to replicate its 2020 effort in the future.

A bill to prevent private funding of Wisconsin’s elections in the future recently passed both houses of the Wisconsin legislature but was vetoed by Wisconsin Governor Tony Evers, a Democrat. It’s doubtful he will reconsider his veto after reviewing this evidence.



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This is to say nothing about actual voter fraud which occurred in Wisconsin.
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
111795 posts
Posted on 10/2/22 at 10:38 pm to
Most of them are scared to death that the voice in the back of their mind is right. It was massive gaming of the system at every level.
Posted by texridder
The Woodlands, TX
Member since Oct 2017
14271 posts
Posted on 10/2/22 at 11:12 pm to
do you have a link?
Posted by RCDfan1950
United States
Member since Feb 2007
35145 posts
Posted on 10/3/22 at 7:46 am to
“honestly” , BT? Marxist Totalitarian Fascist playing by the rules is a joke. They have hi jacked DC and the whole bureaucracy and the Courts with Blue States backing them up. Even if truly Constitutional governance Republicans we’re to take over the Left will just gas light the streets and walk out of Congress with the MSM screaming Muh Dictator. This is like like LSU playing Tennessee this weekend, somebody will win and the other one will lose.
Posted by texridder
The Woodlands, TX
Member since Oct 2017
14271 posts
Posted on 10/3/22 at 7:47 pm to
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All told, we estimate that CTCL spending in Wisconsin generated an additional 65,222 votes for Joe Biden, without which Donald Trump would have defeated Biden in Wisconsin by 44,540 votes.

WILL -- EXAMINING PRIVATE FUNDING OF ELECTIONS -- JUNE 2021
LINK

The WILL estimate of increased Biden votes is 65,222 in June 2021. But in its year-end 2021 report (see below) they estimate that the increase in statewide votes for Biden was 8,000.


Not much to see in these guys reporting on the election,
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A statistical analysis finds significant increases in turnout for Democrats, approximately 8,000 votes statewide, as a result of the distribution of CTCL grants. Specifically, Biden’s vote increased by about 41 votes per municipality in cities that received CTCL grants relative to those that did not over 2016. No statistically significant effect was found for Trump.

WILL -- A REVIEW OF THE 2020 ELECTION -- DECEMBER 2021

LINK
This post was edited on 10/3/22 at 7:56 pm
Posted by Bass Tiger
Member since Oct 2014
46614 posts
Posted on 10/3/22 at 8:45 pm to
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Were Zucker Bucks illegal? Did the Trump guys know about them before the election and object and take legal action? What was the actual effect of these funds on the election-in hard number votes?


I guess left leaning billionaires have the right to provide $400 million for unmonitored drop boxes to assist the Groomers with their mass ballot harvesting scheme….you got me there. Lol! Little to no chain of custody on million of ballots. It was reported by a source a few months after the election, a source that I can’t recall, that said upwards of 70% of the ballots from Zucker Drop boxes went to Biden. And the vast majority of the Zucker Boxes were placed in Blue cities/counties where the ballot harvesting would be easier to pull off.

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In which particular states is there documented evidence of this happening? Did the Trump guys know and do anything to stop it? What is the quantified number of votes and the documented evidence these votes were affected?


Pennsylvania was the worst. In their state constitution it requires the legislature to change voting laws/process. Marc Elias went to the courts and the corrupt or inept judges allowed the changes for mass mail in ballot harvesting with little to no chain of custody, COVID19 hysteria! As a matter of fact Mark Levin’s wife was on the legal team that tried to bring a case because the PA judiciary/courts changed the voting process. The legal team was told no standing, laches, some shite like that.

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What exactly is documented about the authenticity of the entirety of the laptop contents? What was known about the authenticity of the entirety of the laptop contents a month before the election?
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First off. The FBI had the Laptop From Hell in December of 2019…they knew it was legit trouble for their candidate Joe Biden. But the real trouble came from a former business partner of Hunter Biden.

Tony Bobulinski was business partners with Hunter and one of Joe Biden’s brothers and he was interviewed extensively by Tucker Carlson in October of 2020. During that interview Bobulinski read the email about the “Big Guy” getting his 10% cut on a particular business deal that was using Joe Biden as the connector for the deal. Bobulinski also had dinner with Joe Biden, Hunter and the Biden uncle, there was no question about it, Joe Biden was brazenly peddling political influence. After that Bobulinski interview the FBI contacted Zuckerburg’s leadership team and asked them to spike the information on Facebook concerning the Laptop From Hell labeling it disinformation. We know the Bobulinski interview was legit because the Bidens nor the FBI wanted any of that action, the best they could do was to suppress the story, which they did with the help of Facebook, Twitter and the Gaslight Media.

I don’t know why I took the time to respond to a lunatic that still believes in the Trump/Russia collusion hoax.
Posted by IceTiger
Really hot place
Member since Oct 2007
26584 posts
Posted on 10/3/22 at 9:10 pm to
They know he didn't...they believe otherwise
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