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re: There’s still a lot of people who believe Biden won straight up….I have a question for you

Posted on 7/15/22 at 9:10 am to
Posted by Bass Tiger
Member since Oct 2014
55769 posts
Posted on 7/15/22 at 9:10 am to
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You're asking the wrong questions. Do you think Trump wins if he figures out that he can take a break from being a flaming a-hole 24 hours a day? Do you think he wins if he shows the ability to learn from his mistakes? Maybe Trump wins if he was a better judge of character and actually surrounded himself with people who understood and supported his vision. Could Trump have won if he weren't such a petulant, alienating personality? I don't know if the election was stolen or not and neither do you. But what I do know is this. A man who wants to be President for a second term doesn't act like a big, veiny cock every time he gets in front of a fricking camera.

I think alot of you frickin' people need to reconcile with the very real possibility that right under the surface, Donald J Trump didn't want to be President of the United States anymore and did his level best to alienate the powers and people who could have gotten him there.
Nobody acts the way that motherfricker acted when he was running for his second term and still expects to win.

Face it. The guy wanted out and that's just the way it is.


Trump didn’t change from 2016 to 2020. Trump behaved exactly the same way, brash, abrasive, narcissistic, extremely confident etc.

Here’s why Trump lost if Biden indeed did receive 81 million votes.

Because Americans have become so mentally fragile and dumbed down. Tens of millions of Americans struggle
with discernment, taking in data/information and coming to rational and logical decisions.


If you were a Biden voter it simply indicates you struggle with emotional instability. You also dismissed everything Joe Biden said on the campaign trail and debate stage….he said he was going to implement policies that would lead to economic disaster, yet you voted for him.

If you were a Biden voter you foolishly decided Trump’s mean tweets, sometimes crude comments and behavior were not worth economic stability, not worth geopolitical stability. You decided your mental health struggles were more important than the nation.

In summary, if you voted for Biden your mentally fragility and poor judgment brought economic ruin and chaos to America and to the world.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
477254 posts
Posted on 7/15/22 at 9:13 am to
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Trump didn’t change from 2016 to 2020. Trump behaved exactly the same way, brash, abrasive, narcissistic, extremely confident etc.

EHHHHHHHHHHHHH, his performances in debates in 2020 were utter shite compared to 2016.

He just kept recycling right wing talking points and going for low blows for the shock value. In 2016 he had some substantive/legit talking points and he saved the quips for sniping his opponents. It wasn't his entire persona.

He mailed it the frick in, in 2020.

Posted by AggieHank86
Texas
Member since Sep 2013
44345 posts
Posted on 7/15/22 at 9:15 am to
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Trump didn’t change from 2016 to 2020. Trump behaved exactly the same way, brash, abrasive, narcissistic, extremely confident etc.
In 2016 it was new and entertaining. Maybe even "refreshing."

By 2020, Trump Fatigue had set in.

Seriously, catching an Andrew Dice Clay show once a year was mildly entertaining, but NO ONE would want to watch that annoying bastard every night for four straight years. You would be willing to crawl across broken glass to watch a has-been like Phyllis Diller instead.
Posted by HeadSlash
TEAM LIVE BADASS - St. GEORGE
Member since Aug 2006
56003 posts
Posted on 7/15/22 at 9:18 am to
Another legit question that stops them dead in they're tracks,"Do you honestly believe biden got more votes than Obama?"
Posted by RCDfan1950
United States
Member since Feb 2007
39727 posts
Posted on 7/15/22 at 9:36 am to
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If you were a Biden voter it simply indicates you struggle with emotional instability. You also dismissed everything Joe Biden said on the campaign trail and debate stage….he said he was going to implement policies that would lead to economic disaster, yet you voted for him.



There it is! Just imagine whether you go to 'Dr. Trump' or 'Dr. Biden' to treat your aggressive cancer. Hard choice for the "emotionally unstable".

Aside, the Book "Envy" by Helmut Schoeck aptly defines this Group; they were the reason that Hitler was able to rise. Shoeck's arguments are masterful, as he was front and center to observe the collective societal delusion. A lot of it is genetic. Everything is for that matter.
Posted by jchamil
Member since Nov 2009
19516 posts
Posted on 7/15/22 at 9:39 am to
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EHHHHHHHHHHHHH, his performances in debates in 2020 were utter shite compared to 2016.


That first debate with Biden was hard to watch as a big Trump supporter to me. He just couldn't help himself, and he came off exactly how the left would have wanted him to
Posted by Bass Tiger
Member since Oct 2014
55769 posts
Posted on 7/15/22 at 9:47 am to
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quote:Trump didn’t change from 2016 to 2020. Trump behaved exactly the same way, brash, abrasive, narcissistic, extremely confident etc.

In 2016 it was new and entertaining. Maybe even "refreshing." By 2020, Trump Fatigue had set in. Seriously, catching an Andrew Dice Clay show once a year was mildly entertaining, but NO ONE would want to watch that annoying bastard every night for four straight years. You would be willing to crawl across broken glass to watch a has-been like Phyllis Diller instead.


My assertion is simple. If Biden got 81 million votes it's a indictment on the mental fragility, gullibility and inability of a majority of Americans to make a prudent decision on which candidate (Biden vs Trump) is better equipped to govern the nation. Once again, if 81 million decided Biden was a better choice than Trump it's disturbing. It's disturbing to think the citizenry dismissed all of Biden's past poor political decisions and the campaign promises/pledges he made. Any sensible person would have understood Biden's policies were going to bring the US to it's knees economically.
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
76732 posts
Posted on 7/15/22 at 10:22 am to
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My assertion is simple. If Biden got 81 million votes it's a indictment on the mental fragility, gullibility and inability of a majority of Americans to make a prudent decision on which candidate (Biden vs Trump) is better equipped to govern the nation. Once again, if 81 million decided Biden was a better choice than Trump it's disturbing. It's disturbing to think the citizenry dismissed all of Biden's past poor political decisions and the campaign promises/pledges he made. Any sensible person would have understood Biden's policies were going to bring the US to it's knees economically.


The last two elections have been disturbing.
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
128849 posts
Posted on 7/15/22 at 10:23 am to
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That first debate with Biden was hard to watch as a big Trump supporter to me.


Outside of Election Day tomfoolery, that was the biggest disappointment. Utter miscalculation.
Posted by Bunk Moreland
Member since Dec 2010
68502 posts
Posted on 7/15/22 at 10:26 am to
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Another legit question that stops them dead in they're tracks,"Do you honestly believe biden got more votes than Obama?"


Not really. They just say that Trump was that despised.

The reason I am sort of Team Ron is I just don't believe the left will be as driven to put it all on the line and cheat. Trump was a threat to democracy in their minds and it was win by any means necessary. I can't see them going all in against DeSantis, especially if the economy is in the tank.
Posted by jchamil
Member since Nov 2009
19516 posts
Posted on 7/15/22 at 10:29 am to
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Trump was a threat to democracy in their minds and it was win by any means necessary. I can't see them going all in against DeSantis, especially if the economy is in the tank.


The same people who let the media brainwash them that Trump was a threat to democracy will also let the media brainwash them for the same if Desantis gets the nomination and they turn their full attention to him
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
128849 posts
Posted on 7/15/22 at 10:32 am to
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I just don't believe the left will be as driven to put it all on the line and cheat.


Listen. Do you think 2020 was the first year that nationwide cheating efforts were in place?

They did this in 2000, 2004, 2012, 2016 and 2020 for sure. Likely 2008 as well. But it wasn’t as needed in 2008.
Posted by Jjdoc
Cali
Member since Mar 2016
55665 posts
Posted on 7/15/22 at 10:44 am to
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Listen. Do you think 2020 was the first year that nationwide cheating efforts were in place?

They did this in 2000, 2004, 2012, 2016 and 2020 for sure. Likely 2008 as well. But it wasn’t as needed in 2008.






The only difference in 2020 was the fact that Trump drew 15 million more votes that they had to over come.

That's literally why they shut down in every swing state when there was no need.


It's why we all could see it.
Posted by CelticDog
Member since Apr 2015
42867 posts
Posted on 7/15/22 at 11:07 am to
trump would have won if trump had encouraged his supporters to use every means at their disposal he wins instead of bad mouthing mail in. its on him.


Posted by oman
Dallas
Member since Sep 2014
3280 posts
Posted on 7/15/22 at 11:15 am to
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My assertion is simple. If Biden got 81 million votes it's a indictment on the mental fragility, gullibility and inability of a majority of Americans to make a prudent decision on which candidate (Biden vs Trump) is better equipped to govern the nation. Once again, if 81 million decided Biden was a better choice than Trump it's disturbing. It's disturbing to think the citizenry dismissed all of Biden's past poor political decisions and the campaign promises/pledges he made. Any sensible person would have understood Biden's policies were going to bring the US to it's knees economically.


Sounds like you're disturbed.
Posted by 632627
LA
Member since Dec 2011
15140 posts
Posted on 7/15/22 at 11:54 am to
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That first debate with Biden was hard to watch as a big Trump supporter to me. He just couldn't help himself, and he came off exactly how the left would have wanted him to


The first debate was an absolute disaster.

I know a bunch of people here loved it and thought it was great (for trump), but it was a total shitshow that worked in favor of Biden.

Anyone that disagrees is totally blind.
Posted by ronricks
Member since Mar 2021
12245 posts
Posted on 7/15/22 at 12:01 pm to
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Another legit question that stops them dead in they're tracks,"Do you honestly believe biden got more votes than Obama?"


Obama didn't have the advantage of mail in voting nor was he running against someone who was painted as a divisive boogeyman. The mail in voting alone makes it easy for anyone with an IQ above 80 to understand how and why Biden got so many votes. Voting has never been easier than it was in 2020 and that is why BOTH candidates got so many votes. Trump doesn't get to almost 75 million votes without mail in voting. This is pretty easy to understand.
Posted by CelticDog
Member since Apr 2015
42867 posts
Posted on 7/15/22 at 12:41 pm to

the mail in rules were changed. trump failed to adapt. he was anti mail.

failed strategy that was questioned at the time before Nov 3 by gop folk on tv.




Posted by dchog
Pea Ridge
Member since Nov 2012
27216 posts
Posted on 7/15/22 at 12:44 pm to
The left will be just as driven to cheat Ron out of the presidency as Trump. They don't intend to give up on using fraud.
Posted by Bass Tiger
Member since Oct 2014
55769 posts
Posted on 7/15/22 at 1:15 pm to
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My assertion is simple. If Biden got 81 million votes it's a indictment on the mental fragility, gullibility and inability of a majority of Americans to make a prudent decision on which candidate (Biden vs Trump) is better equipped to govern the nation. Once again, if 81 million decided Biden was a better choice than Trump it's disturbing. It's disturbing to think the citizenry dismissed all of Biden's past poor political decisions and the campaign promises/pledges he made. Any sensible person would have understood Biden's policies were going to bring the US to it's knees economically.

Sounds like you're disturbed.



Disturbed?

I’m disgusted 81 million Americans are incapable of understanding the consequences of placing Joe Biden in the White House. They can’t simply claim they were duped, Biden is doing exactly what he said he was going to do.

Did you vote Biden?
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