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Posted on 7/15/22 at 7:35 am to 632627
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I don't understand how people can't comprehend this.
Yeah it wasn't right (activist anti-Trump judges and bureaucrats pushed for them) and it led to utter chaos, because states with MIV previously had a structured process and regulations/rules to make it work and these new states had nothing of the sort. You have to have a very strong infrastructure to do that sort of system correctly.
Unregulated and unmonitored MIV + ballot harvesting will always leave a question mark on 2020. It is not possible to know, either way, how legitimate all the Biden votes were. It should not have happened that way, but states regulate voting and some states went off the res to fight Trump. Doesn't make it fraudulent.
This post was edited on 7/15/22 at 7:38 am
Posted on 7/15/22 at 7:37 am to GoldenGuy
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Why were they stupid enough to believe that shite.
Because telling them that then continuing counting broke the law. People use to believe in the voting process.
The Dims wanted everyone to believe that the Russians wanted/ helped Trump in 2016. They gave $140 million to the Clinton Foundation after the uranium deal ,of which over 60% was overhead , and ZERO to Trump.
The main thing Russia and China wanted was to destroy faith in the American system. Everything the Dims did before and after the 2020 election did exactly that.
With the Gore election we watched as a nation the inspectors go through individual ballots. Sending home poll watchers in several contested cities should have given us that.
Had the rejection rate on absentee ballots followed historical norms, Trump is President. With a massive increase in first time absentee voters rejection rates should have higher due to errors not ten to one hundred times lower. Flooding the system shouldn’t overwhelm a free and fair elections.
Posted on 7/15/22 at 7:41 am to ronricks
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Moderates
Independents
Suburban women
So, these three demographics will literally cut their noses off and be enablers to this Nation going up in flames to spite Trump; what does that say about these folk? "Dupes and useful idiots" much? This is not rocket science. And it is exactly why the Founders ABHORRED DEMOCRACY.
And it is why a lot of these people will be burned in the flames when the Marxist Left throw their hissy fit when Republicans are either forced to respond to open border, rampant inflation and crime, and utter Fascist indoctrination of their children into the Godless Culture envisioned by Orwell.
M Darwin will handle this, since God's Wisdom is rejected. What else is new.
Posted on 7/15/22 at 7:42 am to tarzana
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The answer to the 3 questions are yes, yes and yes. Everyone I know voted for Biden, even though they reject much of the progressive agenda.
If everyone you know voted for that brain-dead pile of nothing I would find new friends. But wait, you think he won fair and square...so you, too, should get the f--k out of here!
Posted on 7/15/22 at 7:47 am to RCDfan1950
Americans are dumb and lazy. We have plenty of statistics showing us this. There are people out there that after all the destruction will still vote for Joe Biden again in 2024 if it comes down to it. There are people who will never vote for Trump no matter what or who his opponent is. That's just reality. Screaming fraud at every corner will never change Trump's overall likeability and low approval ratings.
The same people screaming 'fraud' at every chance seem to not understand how Trump was able to beat Hillary. People disliked her. A lot. People voted against her out of spite or sat home and didn't vote. Same thing happened to Trump in 2020. A lot of people weren't voting 'for' Biden they were voting against Donald Trump. It's sad how people can't understand this.
The same people screaming 'fraud' at every chance seem to not understand how Trump was able to beat Hillary. People disliked her. A lot. People voted against her out of spite or sat home and didn't vote. Same thing happened to Trump in 2020. A lot of people weren't voting 'for' Biden they were voting against Donald Trump. It's sad how people can't understand this.
Posted on 7/15/22 at 7:53 am to ronricks
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Americans are dumb and lazy...... It's sad how people can't understand this.
Yep.
But at least the OP is working on it.
Posted on 7/15/22 at 7:58 am to SlowFlowPro
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1. They really, REALLY hated Trump
2. Covid having states change their voting infrastructures in combination with #1.
What I'm asking is the population totals in those specific counties Joe "won" was there an influx of voters to the tune of 20M more? Was there even enough housing for 20M more people than in 2008? Because we're talking about high density inner city and urban areas. Not suburban or rural. So 20M more than Obama and he had a record turn out.
People have been abandoning high density cities, there populations have declined even if by just a small amount over the years.
I'm asking for numbers, not sentiment for why Biden won.
Posted on 7/15/22 at 8:00 am to Cuz413
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What I'm asking is the population totals in those specific counties Joe "won" was there an influx of voters to the tune of 20M more? Was there even enough housing for 20M more people than in 2008? Because we're talking about high density inner city and urban areas. Not suburban or rural. So 20M more than Obama and he had a record turn out.
People have been abandoning high density cities, there populations have declined even if by just a small amount over the years.
I'm asking for numbers, not sentiment for why Biden won.
Didn’t those places have like an astronomical rise in voter “turnout”?
Posted on 7/15/22 at 8:08 am to Bass Tiger
I think people need to understand when mentioning Hunter's laptop, it's not the pedophilia, hookers, and blow that are the focus.
It's the emails with documented proof of business dealing with foreign countries that were benefiting Joe Biden.
It's the emails with documented proof of business dealing with foreign countries that were benefiting Joe Biden.
Posted on 7/15/22 at 8:11 am to oman
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quote:Welcome a new hole in your head, POS
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Posted on 7/15/22 at 8:11 am to Bass Tiger
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There’s still a lot of people who believe Biden won straight up
No, "a lot" of these people just don't exist. Its gas lighting.
Posted on 7/15/22 at 8:12 am to ronricks
I agree with your assessment, ron. Albeit, given that the MSM FRAMES the perceptual narrative...ANY Constitutional Conservative who meets the Marxist Left (BLM, Antifa, et al) in the streets will be labeled as 'dictatorial' and socially unsympathetic to the 'aggrieved'. And there is no doubt that REAL violent insurrection against Constitutional Rule of Law must and either will be confronted, or civil society collapsed with anarchy and dog eat dog prevailing.
The stupid Marxist think they can control this "engineered collapse" and morp it into a Globalist Authoritarian Society ruled by Secular Elites. I think that lying and attempts to herd cats is the wrong way to go about achieving the kind of Global Unity of the which our Species can ill afford not to, as High-Tech Warfare becomes inevitable otherwise.
The Idea of God (valid or not) is THE only power that can achieve such societal unity. Coerced 'Equality' for the sake of faux-unity won't change eons of genetic Human Nature. The power of Jesus, can; but that is a whole nother argument.
The stupid Marxist think they can control this "engineered collapse" and morp it into a Globalist Authoritarian Society ruled by Secular Elites. I think that lying and attempts to herd cats is the wrong way to go about achieving the kind of Global Unity of the which our Species can ill afford not to, as High-Tech Warfare becomes inevitable otherwise.
The Idea of God (valid or not) is THE only power that can achieve such societal unity. Coerced 'Equality' for the sake of faux-unity won't change eons of genetic Human Nature. The power of Jesus, can; but that is a whole nother argument.
Posted on 7/15/22 at 8:15 am to tarzana
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Everyone I know voted for Biden, even though they reject much of the progressive agenda.
Congrats on being surrounded by easily-misled sheep?
Posted on 7/15/22 at 8:25 am to Bass Tiger
1. Maybe not.
2. Maybe not.
3. Probably still does.
Trump lost because he couldn’t handle the pandemic in a way that optically benefited him. He looked like an absolute idiot when he caught Covid (coming to the debate after having tested positive was real cool, panting on the veranda too).
It wasn’t fraud that damned Trump. It was him showing his true colors during a massive health crisis.
You can argue the legalities of voting processes being altered, but it’s a moot point. They were emergency procedures during the pandemic, and the courts signed off on their use, or at least didn’t act in a way that prevented their use before the election. The reason the GOP doesn’t like expanded voter access isn’t due the likelihood of fraud, it is because expanded voter access doesn’t favor them.
Trump lost. It’s been kind of embarrassing watching MAGA folks jump from fictional fraud narrative to fictional fraud narrative, even after the Trump team has been well documented to have known that their fraud claims were fictional from the start.
2. Maybe not.
3. Probably still does.
Trump lost because he couldn’t handle the pandemic in a way that optically benefited him. He looked like an absolute idiot when he caught Covid (coming to the debate after having tested positive was real cool, panting on the veranda too).
It wasn’t fraud that damned Trump. It was him showing his true colors during a massive health crisis.
You can argue the legalities of voting processes being altered, but it’s a moot point. They were emergency procedures during the pandemic, and the courts signed off on their use, or at least didn’t act in a way that prevented their use before the election. The reason the GOP doesn’t like expanded voter access isn’t due the likelihood of fraud, it is because expanded voter access doesn’t favor them.
Trump lost. It’s been kind of embarrassing watching MAGA folks jump from fictional fraud narrative to fictional fraud narrative, even after the Trump team has been well documented to have known that their fraud claims were fictional from the start.
Posted on 7/15/22 at 8:49 am to Cuz413
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What I'm asking is the population totals in those specific counties Joe "won" was there an influx of voters to the tune of 20M more? Was there even enough housing for 20M more people than in 2008?
Do you think the US voter participation rate in 2016 was over 90% or something?
Posted on 7/15/22 at 8:50 am to riccoar
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I think people need to understand when mentioning Hunter's laptop, it's not the pedophilia, hookers, and blow that are the focus.
It's the emails with documented proof of business dealing with foreign countries that were benefiting Joe Biden.
This should be more directed at those on the right/Trump fans than those on the left. The echo chamber is hyperfocused on the sex/drugs and it allows the left to ignore having to address the real issues.
Posted on 7/15/22 at 8:53 am to Cuz413
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What I'm asking is the population totals in those specific counties Joe "won" was there an influx of voters to the tune of 20M more?
Biden didn’t only gain total voters in counties he won. He gained more voters than Obama in most places, because more people voted.
Both candidates in 2020 were always going to have historically high vote totals from the moment the pandemic voting measures started rolling out.
It’s so incredibly bizarre that of all things to use, people here use pure vote totals as evidence of fraud
It makes no sense. Turnout easily explains the high totals. 
Posted on 7/15/22 at 8:55 am to riccoar
quote:Assuming that EVERYTHING claimed to be on the laptop is bona fide and genuine, you are 100% correct.
I think people need to understand when mentioning Hunter's laptop, it's not the pedophilia, hookers, and blow that are the focus.
It's the emails with documented proof of business dealing with foreign countries that were benefiting Joe Biden.
And that is WHY the Trump crowd needs to STOP bitching and whining about the former. NO ONE cares that Hunter Biden fricks hookers and does blow.
The fixation on that utter nonsense makes normal people tune you out, when you start talking about the more-substantive items.
"Oh frick, not THESE idiots and THIS shite again ...."
This post was edited on 7/15/22 at 8:57 am
Posted on 7/15/22 at 9:02 am to HVAU
Yeah. I think come November we are going to get a true estimate of the voting public. The Dem-controlled Urban areas are toast no matter what as they will continue to bleed and self-destruct regardless. Though the reaction to that will be expressed in the overall vote.
Re National election of a POTUS, that is a crapshoot. Albeit a LOT of illegal immigrants are fleeing the Commie BS and want none of it up here. Like Thatcher said: "sooner or later the Socialists run out of other people's money to spend"; with rampant inflation being apparent and painful...the Dem's ability to buy votes toward their PURE DEMOCRACY rule will be thwarted. It's going to be a dog fight any way we cut it.
Re National election of a POTUS, that is a crapshoot. Albeit a LOT of illegal immigrants are fleeing the Commie BS and want none of it up here. Like Thatcher said: "sooner or later the Socialists run out of other people's money to spend"; with rampant inflation being apparent and painful...the Dem's ability to buy votes toward their PURE DEMOCRACY rule will be thwarted. It's going to be a dog fight any way we cut it.
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