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re: There is too much focus on the border and "illegals" and

Posted on 9/15/24 at 9:09 am to
Posted by ChineseBandit58
Pearland, TX
Member since Aug 2005
49521 posts
Posted on 9/15/24 at 9:09 am to
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It’s just another wedge issue to remove focus from the debt and deficit and the fact that we are being lied to daily about who is running our country.

Politics has been theater about abortion guns health care and immigration for most of my life.

And mine - I was in my early 30's back in 1970 when it first dawned on me that what politicians said were meant to deceive, not to advise. If they called a bill "debt reduction" it was really a 'cover' name to disguise its real purpose to promote some other negative agenda item.

It has only gotten worse since - and now we are in the era of 'continuing resolutions' just to keep the govt running. That is so they can HIDE all the pernicious bullshite they steal from the public taxpayer to give to their corrupt henchmen. BOTH SIDEs --- there are very few HONEST people in politics at the national level -

Which is why I so fully support TRUMP - he is the ONLY one who I think has NO PERSONAL FINANCIAL STAKE in the political field.

I truly believe he is in it ONLY to safeguard our national heritage of Individual Freedom and Liberty.

I can overlook personal picadillos so long as he keeps them personal and not destructive. I know he is a braggart (the first personal trait I came to detest as a child) - and unskilled in political jargon - which is one of the best things I know about him.
Posted by RCDfan1950
United States
Member since Feb 2007
39654 posts
Posted on 9/15/24 at 9:14 am to
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Define "efforts to reject", please. Because it certainly sounds exactly like an attack on government, but I'll let you define the words so I avoid a straw man.



Well SF, rejection of Court mandates/rulings most certainly would and should be considered an "attack on Government". Or more precisely, the (tyrannical?) Government as *interpreted* and given power via the (tyrannical?/un-Constitutional) Courts.

The Courts determined that the prosecution of the Jan 6 Protestors was indeed Criminal, and an attack on Government. And sent responsible and productive citizens to prison, or worse, suicide. Yet, the same Courts determined that the massive attacks on Government Property when 'Trump' was the 'Government', was NOT criminal attacks on Government. WTF? Are the Courts to be considered legitimately authoritative when they embrace Rulings that are obviously unfounded on the principle of Equal Justice? The Courts disqualify their own legitimacy when they forsake honest and 'blind Justice' Jurisprudence for ideological reasons and invite the kinds of attacks that are coming per the Founder's admonitions re a tyrannical 'government'. Lest they drop the bias, the day is soon to be when they will totally lose respect from half the populous. That will not be good, unless one's ideological strategy is to destroy this Nation. Or at the least, "fundamentally change" it to Democratic Fascist. We've seen this before, in Germany.

Do you desire, or would you prefer that the Courts abandon Equal Justice in service to ideological bias? Should the people who clearly see this bias just lay down while their Constitutional Republic that lends legitimate power to said Courts in the first place, is destroyed, via (biased) Court interpretations? Which side is the true 'Insurrectionists' in this scenario?

Therein is our soon to be bloody problem. Truth has become subjective, and based according to Ideological preference. And for one Side to attempt to subjectively attack the other as being 'immoral' or 'criminal', with economic ruination, jail or ultimate attack from 'government' power, is at the least foolish, misguided, impractical, suicidal and insane, and the worst, pure evil.

I await your response re Equal Justice. It's either/or.

Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
476619 posts
Posted on 9/15/24 at 9:15 am to
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And there it is folks.

If you don't like the courts you are guilty of an attack on the government.



And there it is, folks

Making shite up that ignores reality

Please see:

quote:

Define "efforts to reject", please.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
476619 posts
Posted on 9/15/24 at 9:15 am to
quote:

free citizen says I object your honor

Slo says Bailiff wack his peepee

early cheech and chong


Hattian-level IQ on display.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
476619 posts
Posted on 9/15/24 at 9:16 am to
quote:

Unfortunately people like you will continue to vote for Democrats


Well that's wrong

Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
476619 posts
Posted on 9/15/24 at 9:17 am to
quote:

Well SF, rejection of Court mandates/rulings most certainly would and should be considered an "attack on Government". Or more precisely, the (tyrannical?) Government as *interpreted* and given power via the (tyrannical?/un-Constitutional) Courts.

The Courts determined that the prosecution of the Jan 6 Protestors was indeed Criminal, and an attack on Government. And sent responsible and productive citizens to prison, or worse, suicide. Yet, the same Courts determined that the massive attacks on Government Property when 'Trump' was the 'Government', was NOT criminal attacks on Government. WTF? Are the Courts to be considered legitimately authoritative when they embrace Rulings that are obviously unfounded on the principle of Equal Justice? The Courts disqualify their own legitimacy when they forsake honest and 'blind Justice' Jurisprudence for ideological reasons and invite the kinds of attacks that are coming per the Founder's admonitions re a tyrannical 'government'. Lest they drop the bias, the day is soon to be when they will totally lose respect from half the populous. That will not be good, unless one's ideological strategy is to destroy this Nation. Or at the least, "fundamentally change" it to Democratic Fascist. We've seen this before, in Germany.

Do you desire, or would you prefer that the Courts abandon Equal Justice in service to ideological bias? Should the people who clearly see this bias just lay down while their Constitutional Republic that lends legitimate power to said Courts in the first place, is destroyed, via (biased) Court interpretations? Which side is the true 'Insurrectionists' in this scenario?

Therein is our soon to be bloody problem. Truth has become subjective, and based according to Ideological preference. And for one Side to attempt to subjectively attack the other as being 'immoral' or 'criminal', with economic ruination, jail or ultimate attack from 'government' power, is at the least foolish, misguided, impractical, suicidal and insane, and the worst, pure evil.

You did not respond specifically to my simple request, with all of this word salad.

I'll let you try again

quote:

Define "efforts to reject", please.
This post was edited on 9/15/24 at 9:18 am
Posted by UncleFestersLegs
Member since Nov 2010
16880 posts
Posted on 9/15/24 at 9:19 am to
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Hattian-level IQ on display.
oh look SFP in yet another thread "not" simping for illegals
Posted by AU86
Member since Aug 2009
26257 posts
Posted on 9/15/24 at 9:25 am to
This is what I posted in another thread.

Here is the current list of countries designated for Temporary Protected Status that Biden/ Harris has approved.

Countries Currently Designated for TPS


Afghanistan
Burma (Myanmar)
Cameroon
El Salvador
Ethiopia
Haiti
Honduras
Nepal
Nicaragua
Somalia
South Sudan
Sudan
Syria
Ukraine
Venezuela
Yemen

This is nothing but treason by those bastards in Washington.

During a designated period, individuals who are TPS beneficiaries or who are found preliminarily eligible for TPS upon initial review of their cases (prima facie eligible):

Are not removable from the United States
Can obtain an employment authorization document (EAD)
May be granted travel authorization
Once granted TPS, an individual also cannot be detained by DHS on the basis of his or her immigration status in the United States.

That is right off of the website. US Citizenship and Immigration Service


Treason!!!!!!!
Posted by momentoftruth87
Your mom
Member since Oct 2013
86110 posts
Posted on 9/15/24 at 9:26 am to
OP had a meltdown saying he wasn’t voting for Trump, then you have SFP who is always been tds, then Roger jumps in to defend illegals and little L1C4 has to join his buddies.

It’s always the same idiots.
Posted by Sofaking2
Member since Apr 2023
21186 posts
Posted on 9/15/24 at 9:27 am to
The first order of business is to secure the borders. Everyone knows that’s the immediate problem. Once you do that you can start sorting through everything else.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
299293 posts
Posted on 9/15/24 at 9:30 am to
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The first order of business is to secure the borders.


These people are flown here with refugee status.

You can build a 50' fence on the border and they'll still come.
Posted by AU86
Member since Aug 2009
26257 posts
Posted on 9/15/24 at 9:33 am to
Under the current standards that is true.

TPS for a country can be revoked and/or changed. That is what Trump can do to stop it. Biden/Harris changed the status of countries like Haiti and Venezuela to allow them in after they took office.
This post was edited on 9/15/24 at 9:35 am
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
299293 posts
Posted on 9/15/24 at 9:36 am to
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TPS for a country can be revoked and/or changed


I totally get that.

But that doesnt stop "Conservatives" on this board from fighting the wrong fight.

We're chasing ghosts. "Kamala aint black" and "Haitians are eating geese" isnt moving the needle nationally

What will happen is Haitians will get more funding because we've reduced them to eating wild waterfowl.
Posted by momentoftruth87
Your mom
Member since Oct 2013
86110 posts
Posted on 9/15/24 at 9:39 am to
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But that doesnt stop "Conservatives" on this board from fighting the wrong fight.


You cry about debt yet don’t care about these illegals. I don’t think you understand how hypocritical and dumb you really are.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
299293 posts
Posted on 9/15/24 at 9:40 am to
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You cry about debt yet don’t care about these illegals.


They duck eaters arent illegals, dipshit.



Posted by momentoftruth87
Your mom
Member since Oct 2013
86110 posts
Posted on 9/15/24 at 9:44 am to
quote:

They duck eaters arent illegals, dipshit.


Posted by L1C4
The Ville
Member since Aug 2017
16566 posts
Posted on 9/15/24 at 9:46 am to
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It's always the same idiots.
Lol. Says the 2nd dumbest poster on the board.
Posted by antibarner
Member since Oct 2009
26713 posts
Posted on 9/15/24 at 9:47 am to
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The courts that matter disagree with you, and they have power (and you don't) in this situation.


The courts didnt give them that status...and if Trump gets elected that status can be removed with a swiftness.
Posted by dnm3305
Member since Feb 2009
16051 posts
Posted on 9/15/24 at 9:47 am to
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Legally, illegally, by foot, by plane, by boat. It doesn' matter. The Haitians are all here, technically legally. And the vast majority of what people call."illegals" are not really "illegal", the state knows who they are and they have been documented as "asylum seekers".


frick. You.

You know exactly what they are.

Are they paying taxes motherfricker? Are they receiving benefits motherfricker? Are they making the cost of housing going up due to supply and demand motherfricker? Are communities safer or more dangerous motherfricker?

I don’t get a shite what they are called, it hurts America and it hurts Americans.
Posted by oklahogjr
Gold Membership
Member since Jan 2010
40237 posts
Posted on 9/15/24 at 9:47 am to
So you want no immigration? No even legal? That's fricking dumb. Go back wherever your family came from
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