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re: There is too much focus on the border and "illegals" and
Posted on 9/15/24 at 9:47 am to L1C4
Posted on 9/15/24 at 9:47 am to L1C4
These dweebs are going to ensure a large budget is passed for these refugees to house and feed them.
I'd rather they eat geese they catch themselves than another dollar in Gubment spending to feed them.
I'd rather they eat geese they catch themselves than another dollar in Gubment spending to feed them.
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Posted on 9/15/24 at 9:47 am to L1C4
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Lol. Says the 2nd dumbest poster on the board.
It’s difficult to beat you out for that spot
Posted on 9/15/24 at 9:48 am to dnm3305
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Are they receiving benefits motherfricker?
If y'all keep bitching about eating geese, they will.
Posted on 9/15/24 at 9:51 am to RogerTheShrubber
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We're chasing ghosts. "Kamala aint black" and "Haitians are eating geese" isnt moving the needle nationally
I agree with that.
Posted on 9/15/24 at 9:56 am to AU86
I guess when basically everything you are propagating is ridiculously absurd, it makes it easy to castigate those who oppose you for doing nothing but focusing on the ridiculously absurd.
Posted on 9/15/24 at 9:57 am to SlowFlowPro
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You did not respond specifically to my simple request, with all of this word salad.
I'll let you try again
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Define "efforts to reject", please.
I'll define "efforts to reject" with and effort (via protests) as being an 'effort to QUESTION' obvious ideological bias of a supposedly Equal Justice based Court, SF.
My "word salad" is simply a detailed, speculative description of the likely scenario when half the populous whose grievance is obviously, morally and Constitutionally legitimate, is ignored. Or worse, deemed criminal and attacked via a (tyrannical and un-Constitutional/no Equal Justice) Court.
So, do you now answer in kind, re the Equal Justice issue re what has become a question of the (now subjective) legitimacy of our Courts? Do you believe that a Court System that is based on the Constitution, Rule of Law and Equal Justice, should be considered as legitimate, without question or "rejection" if such a Court abandons Equal Justice for political and ideological bias? Would you be good with such a biased form of 'justice' being applied to you, as being essentially 'treasonous' and 'insurrectionist' if your ideological opposition takes control, and the weeding out of 'criminally' culpable 'conspirators' begins?
They say that "we reap according to that which we sow"; this I believe; albeit in due time.
Again, I await you answer.
Posted on 9/15/24 at 10:00 am to SlowFlowPro
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they're only here illegally once given due process
They do not deserve due process.
Posted on 9/15/24 at 10:19 am to burger bearcat
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Not enough focus on immigration itself and the way it is being done. This goes back to that joke of a border bill. In a way, the Dems actually made a smart move with that bill because they were technically proposing to cleanup the chaos at the border. But the orderliness is not the issue, the issue is masses coming in.
Legally, illegally, by foot, by plane, by boat. It doesn' matter. The Haitians are all here, technically legally. And the vast majority of what people call."illegals" are not really "illegal", the state knows who they are and they have been documented as "asylum seekers".
We are being invaded.
Posted on 9/15/24 at 10:35 am to POTUS2024
It’s all good as long as they only eat the geese - Roger
Posted on 9/15/24 at 11:13 am to RogerTheShrubber
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But that doesnt stop "Conservatives" on this board from fighting the wrong fight.
We're chasing ghosts. "Kamala aint black" and "Haitians are eating geese" isnt moving the needle nationally
Correct.
Posted on 9/15/24 at 12:29 pm to skidry
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It’s just another wedge issue to remove focus from the debt and deficit and the fact that we are being lied to daily about who is running our country.
Uh.... no.
It's another point of proof that the administration is sabotaging everything that they can in this country.
"Wedge issue"
Posted on 9/15/24 at 12:37 pm to burger bearcat
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You are too dense yo understand this. In the eyes of the state, yes they are here legally (the vast majority). Our dumbass refugee and asylum laws are the problem. The whole thing is being completely manipulated through legal loopholes, Marxist judges, and state funded NGOs. But yea they are classified as being here as legal asylum seekers or refugees.
Essentially, you're saying that the democrats are rigging the system to WRONGLY make these border breakers legal.
You need to start saying THAT, tho. Rather than just leaving it in a way that sounds like you're defending it.
Posted on 9/15/24 at 12:40 pm to Night Vision
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Doesn't matter what any laws say because the dims don't follow the law.
quote:-Obama, Nancy Pelosi, countless other (D) Leaders.
The rule of law is broken
They gave up on even trying to pretend to follow the law.
Posted on 9/15/24 at 12:49 pm to burger bearcat
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This is correct. But until the focus is on us simply not wanting these people here in this country, whatsoever, which is going to take an extreme mindset shift, the problem won't be solved. They are using the collective "white guilt" and fear of being called racist, against us. Once people stop giving a shite about being called a racist, and agreeing we don't want hordes of 3rd worlders coming in under any classification (legal or illegal), we won't fix this.
Just my opinion, and I know it's unrealistic, and won't happen.
But IMO, this and all the rest of the sabotage to this country doesn't end until the (D) party is GONE.
Posted on 9/15/24 at 12:58 pm to Kcrad
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This is completely untrue. Where are you getting your talking points from or are you just making shite up?
They put forth a terrible bill with the knowledge the Republicans wouldn't pass it so they could use that fact to lie to the public and try to make the Republicans look responsible for the open border.
This is not a bite on you. But you have to be aware of how the Rats play the long game. Many of their bills are not intended to pass. As you correctly stated. They KNEW we wouldn't pass it.
They are meant to bring the ideas into the system. To be reworked, to be discussed. The more something is discussed, the more people actually think about it, and normalize it.
And then, they will sneak it in, buried deep, deep down, in a bill that needs to be passed.
This post was edited on 9/15/24 at 1:00 pm
Posted on 9/15/24 at 2:25 pm to SlowFlowPro
So, do you now answer in kind, re the Equal Justice issue re what has become a question of the (now subjective) legitimacy of our Courts? Do you believe that a Court System that is based on the Constitution, Rule of Law and Equal Justice, should be considered as legitimate, without question or "rejection" if such a Court abandons Equal Justice for political and ideological bias? Would you be good with such a biased form of 'justice' being applied to you, as being essentially 'treasonous' and 'insurrectionist' if your ideological opposition takes control, and the weeding out of 'criminally' culpable 'conspirators' begins?
Okay, SFP...I'm sopping wet with sweat after 3 hours in the homestead trenches, and I'll assume that your non-answer is akin to that of the French Queen who responded to the grievances re the governance of her own populous with "let them eat cake".
I have zero interest in playing petty one-upmanship games on a debate forum, but I fear what comes when honest and forthright debate from thoughtful and responsible citizens is abandoned and by default, might then becomes the mechanism of totalitarian government. But I reckon it's always been that way, only that we in the USA have been above that for a few hundred years.
And honestly, I really don't think our populous either desires, can afford or even deserves to be as independent and Free as those which the former Constitutional Republic guaranteed and afforded. Many are weak, misguided and intoxicated with unrealistic and idealistic delusion. Though I readily admit that traditional societal, civilizational economic and cultural models are fast becoming obsolete, impractical and inoperative, given the advance of High Tech and the suicidal issues of competition therein.
"A Constitutional Republic, Mam, for as long as you can keep it". Either way, this ship has sailed. We are headed to an Authoritarian form of 'Government', from one side or the other. I.e., relative affluence being determined by either Capitalist-based merit, or Marxist-based DEI.
Okay, SFP...I'm sopping wet with sweat after 3 hours in the homestead trenches, and I'll assume that your non-answer is akin to that of the French Queen who responded to the grievances re the governance of her own populous with "let them eat cake".
I have zero interest in playing petty one-upmanship games on a debate forum, but I fear what comes when honest and forthright debate from thoughtful and responsible citizens is abandoned and by default, might then becomes the mechanism of totalitarian government. But I reckon it's always been that way, only that we in the USA have been above that for a few hundred years.
And honestly, I really don't think our populous either desires, can afford or even deserves to be as independent and Free as those which the former Constitutional Republic guaranteed and afforded. Many are weak, misguided and intoxicated with unrealistic and idealistic delusion. Though I readily admit that traditional societal, civilizational economic and cultural models are fast becoming obsolete, impractical and inoperative, given the advance of High Tech and the suicidal issues of competition therein.
"A Constitutional Republic, Mam, for as long as you can keep it". Either way, this ship has sailed. We are headed to an Authoritarian form of 'Government', from one side or the other. I.e., relative affluence being determined by either Capitalist-based merit, or Marxist-based DEI.
Posted on 9/15/24 at 3:24 pm to burger bearcat
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There is too much focus on the border and "illegals" and Not enough focus on immigration itself and the way it is being done.
It seems to me that the current story is about the government dropping off thousands of third worlders into small cities. It's not about how thousands of border crossers coincidentally chose to settle in a town with no hatian ties.
I've seen several posts about how the Haitians are being flown here, not walking across the border. I think most people who are aware of the problem know that the democrats are giving them "legal" status.
Posted on 9/15/24 at 4:21 pm to burger bearcat
Our government has absolutely no clue who the hell is here or how many.
Posted on 9/15/24 at 4:56 pm to dnm3305
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frick. You.
You know exactly what they are.
Are they paying taxes motherfricker? Are they receiving benefits motherfricker? Are they making the cost of housing going up due to supply and demand motherfricker? Are communities safer or more dangerous motherfricker?
I don’t get a shite what they are called, it hurts America and it hurts Americans.
Ok not sure where the "frick you" is coming from. Sounds like you basically agree with me that we don't want them here in this country. You aren't following my point, and are lashing out emotionally.
Posted on 9/15/24 at 5:01 pm to oklahogjr
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So you want no immigration?
Im fine with limited immigration if it is a net positive to the country and it's founding values. Importing hordes of low IQ, non-Christian 3rd worlders without skills and can't speak English is not a net positive.
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That's fricking dumb.
Why?
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Go back wherever your family came from
I was born here. My parents were born here. Their parents were born here. And their parents were as well. My ancestors came here and assimilated quickly. Fought in wars for this country. Built businesses, churches, communities, and have paid a shite ton of taxes. I am raising my children here and I'm not fricking going anywhere.
All the freeloaders who were shipped in here by globalist elites for no other reason than to displace my vote, my sovereignty, and to replace my progeny can get the frick out.
This post was edited on 9/15/24 at 5:03 pm
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