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re: There is no way this $300B surrender package gets through congress

Posted on 6/15/26 at 3:45 pm to
Posted by VoxDawg
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Member since Sep 2012
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Posted on 6/15/26 at 3:45 pm to
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There is no way this $300B surrender package gets through congress

Considering the US isn't the source of the funding, you're absolutely correct.
Posted by IMSA_Fan
Member since Jul 2024
872 posts
Posted on 6/15/26 at 3:46 pm to
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Aside from any concrete details of the deal you're commenting on? Have you seen it? If so, can you link it here?

Yes please tell me what I’m missing
Posted by VoxDawg
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Member since Sep 2012
78267 posts
Posted on 6/15/26 at 3:46 pm to
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it doesn't seem like the US is wiring 300 billion to Tehran

Unlike the pallets of cash Hussein sent to the Ayatollah to pursue their nuclear ambitions, mind you.
Posted by FluffyBunnyFeet
Dallas, TX
Member since Oct 2014
3982 posts
Posted on 6/15/26 at 3:46 pm to
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Ending the fighting: The U.S. and Iran declared a permanent end to military operations on all fronts, including the Israel-Hezbollah fighting in Lebanon.
So, no more war? No more American soldiers in harm's way?

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Strait of Hormuz: Iran clears its mines and keeps the strait open with no tolls, while the U.S. lifts its naval blockade on Iranian ports.
I thought we wanted the Strait open, did we not?

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Sanctions: Oil and some financial sanctions are lifted, with relief tied to Iran’s compliance.
Relief provided by whom?

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Frozen funds: Roughly $24 billion in Iranian assets are to be unfrozen, half before final negotiations begin.
So assets they already had but we'd frozen? We going into our pockets in any way here?

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$300B reconstruction fund: The U.S. has offered Iran access to a $300 billion reconstruction fund contingent on Iran fulfilling its obligations, with funds barred from supporting terrorism or destabilizing the region.
Provided by whom? Us? I had heard this being put up by other M.E. states, is that not accurate?

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Nuclear: Iran reaffirms its NPT commitment to not produce nuclear weapons, but enrichment and uranium disposal are deferred.
Is this a bad thing? We blew all their nuke-building capability to hell and back and I assume if they ever get close again we'd blow it up again.

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Sovereignty: The U.S. commits not to interfere in Iran’s internal affairs and to respect the sovereignty of the Islamic Republic.
Good! I'd like to stay away from the affairs of the entire cursed region.

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60-day window: Final talks on nuclear, remaining sanctions, and UN/IAEA resolutions happen only after Iran implements its initial commitments.
And? This is bad how?

Again, I'd really prefer a link to something official if you have one.
Posted by TigerAxeOK
In the woods and by the waters.
Member since Dec 2016
38419 posts
Posted on 6/15/26 at 3:47 pm to
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There isn’t a representative alive that is running for reelection that can vote for it

They campaigned in '24 on passing the SAVE Act.

You might be mistaken.

Have you not seen how much Congress loves to spend our money? $300B is less than nothing to them.
Posted by PastorJ
Member since Sep 2024
983 posts
Posted on 6/15/26 at 3:47 pm to
Obama gives Iran 100 billion. Trump Cult: Treason!!

Trump gives Iran 300 billion. Trump Cult: Stunning and brave! So much winning!!
Posted by SludgeFactory
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Member since Jun 2025
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Posted on 6/15/26 at 3:49 pm to
How many threads like this are these idiots going to start today with the same topic and same stupid take?
Posted by IMSA_Fan
Member since Jul 2024
872 posts
Posted on 6/15/26 at 3:50 pm to
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So assets they already had but we'd frozen? We going into our pockets in any way here?

Do you remember what a hissy fit the republicans had when Obama did this?
Posted by OldManRiver
Prairieville, LA
Member since Jan 2005
7632 posts
Posted on 6/15/26 at 3:51 pm to
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Do you honestly see the Saudi’s cutting the Iranians a $100B+ check. Surely you can’t be that stupid

Honestly, no, I'd bet good money the US will be on the hook for a large portion of that amount.

But I'm also tired of seeing 147 different versions of "the deal" depending on who's twitter account somebody decides to repost and push as the real thing. So I've decided to simply listen to what the actual principles say and assume that's the reality. If it's wrong, we'll know soon enough
Posted by FluffyBunnyFeet
Dallas, TX
Member since Oct 2014
3982 posts
Posted on 6/15/26 at 3:52 pm to
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Do you remember what a hissy fit the republicans had when Obama did this?

I remember they were mad because he gave them straight cash with no strings attached. Is that what this is? Are WE giving them 300B for nothing, or are ME states putting it up contingent upon certain factors?

Again, ANYTHING official other than your interpretation of something you read on Twitter would be most appreciated.
Posted by 756
Member since Sep 2004
15942 posts
Posted on 6/15/26 at 3:53 pm to
Isn't this their money we froze?
Posted by OldManRiver
Prairieville, LA
Member since Jan 2005
7632 posts
Posted on 6/15/26 at 3:56 pm to
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I remember they were mad because he gave them straight cash with no strings attached.

The JCPOA funds were unfrozen assets

However, there was also the pallet of Swiss Francs or whatever that we flew over in the night that officially was for repayment of a bad arms deal but in reality was a ransom to get back hostages.
Posted by MrLSU
Yellowstone, Val d'isere
Member since Jan 2004
29812 posts
Posted on 6/15/26 at 3:57 pm to
Posted by ninthward
Boston, MA
Member since May 2007
22842 posts
Posted on 6/15/26 at 3:57 pm to
TDS moron
Posted by kilo
No block, no rock
Member since Oct 2011
30268 posts
Posted on 6/15/26 at 3:58 pm to
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Isn't this their money we froze?


Yes but its funny.

Posted by NC_Tigah
Make Orwell Fiction Again
Member since Sep 2003
139658 posts
Posted on 6/15/26 at 3:59 pm to
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There is no way this $300B surrender package gets through congress
Wow! Just wow.
Posted by MrLSU
Yellowstone, Val d'isere
Member since Jan 2004
29812 posts
Posted on 6/15/26 at 3:59 pm to
It sounds like some of it is US money funneled to Qatar destined for Iran.
Posted by IMSA_Fan
Member since Jul 2024
872 posts
Posted on 6/15/26 at 3:59 pm to
The big number people cite was neither cash nor a US gift: roughly $50 billion in usable funds was Iran’s own money, frozen in foreign banks under sanctions, and it was only unfrozen after nuclear inspectors verified in January 2016 that Iran was curbing its nuclear program, which is the opposite of “no strings.” It was also a multilateral deal involving the UK, France, Germany, Russia, China, and the EU, so Obama didn’t carry out any part of it on his own The only actual cash was a separate $1.7 billion item: $400 million in principal Iran had paid before the 1979 revolution for military equipment it never received, plus $1.3 billion in interest, settled to resolve a decades-old dispute that the US was likely to lose at the Hague tribunal. So the “cash with no strings” line collapses on both halves: the $50 billion came with nuclear-compliance strings and wasn’t cash, and the cash was repayment of a genuine debt whose bad optics came from pallets and prisoner-release timing, not from being a giveaway.
Posted by IMSA_Fan
Member since Jul 2024
872 posts
Posted on 6/15/26 at 4:01 pm to
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I dont think Congress has a say, not their money

If it is going to require an allocation of taxpayer money it 100% has to go through Congress - they hold the purse via the constitution
Posted by NC_Tigah
Make Orwell Fiction Again
Member since Sep 2003
139658 posts
Posted on 6/15/26 at 4:02 pm to
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Please educate me on what I am missing?
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