re: There are intelligent people who oppose President Trump

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If you don't lick Trump's boots, you're a part of the "lunacy of the left."

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Didn't vote for Trump and certainly don't lick his boots, and I don't think I've been called part of the "lunacy of the left."

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What measurables bother you the most about the first 2 years of the Trump Presidency?

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Expanding government surveillance on its citizens.

Fattening the MIC.

Spending like a progressive.

Expanding war and continuing the establishment agenda in the Middle East (see Yemen....and the recent surge in Afghanistan).

Replenishing the swamp - John Bolton, Rudy Giuliani, etc.

Fortifying the Federal Reserve for the establishment (see recent chairman nomination).

Like another poster said, this is just the things off the top of my head.

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all 3 were passed with 60+ votes, not 51. I think that's a significant difference.

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And that's exactly my point.

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Ah, the simplistic worldview that anyone who fails to worship GEOTUS simply MUST be a Leftist lunatic

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Your comment is, in no way, reflective of what I stated. It has nothing to do with Trump worship and more to do with the lunacy of the other side. My comments are making it about the left and only the left. There was no comment about Trump in anything I stated.

The left doesn’t talk policy, has no real agenda other than taxes, open borders and freebies. Its all about subversion and personal attacks or have I missed something?

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What measurable bother you the most about the first 2 years of the Trump Presidency?

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1) There are still people living in America with skin colors other than white.

2) Gays and gender confused have't been killed.

3) No oil well in my back yard yet

4) Except for the normal gang members and occasional innocents caught in between I see no evidence of people dying in the streets.

5) For someone who is "Literally Hitler" his lack of a little mustache has to be considered a failure.

6)I still have quite a bit of money. Guess he hasn't got around to giving all my money to the big corporations yet. I'll keep you posted.

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The military guys seem to hold up well...?

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This. There is no way in hell a man like Secretary Mattis would serve under Trump if Trump was such a god awful person.

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I think he has to take more than 50% just based on who he nominated.

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huh?

Because he nominated a white male?

Kavanaugh was about as benign of a pick as anyone could get from a Republican president. The left literally made up a sexual assault story. And somehow this is the President taking the blame?

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I just cant get past the fact that Trump has NO moral compass and what he says means nothing ....nothing

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So you're saying Hillary Rotten Clinton has a moral compass? That the leadership of the DNC in any way, shape, form, or fashion, has a moral compass? These people who flip flop, carry a bottle of hot sauce in their purse, fake a southern drawl. The same ones who want to both make the 7th FBI Report on Kavanaugh public and yet sealed? The same people that exposed to the INTERNATIONAL media someone who wrote about staying private with allegations?

Those are some solid morals right there!

The list of immorality by the DNC goes on and on and on, the extent of which exceeds the limits of a forum like TD. But go ahead and hate on POTUS with that entire forest of trees still stuck in your own eye.

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Expanding government surveillance on its citizens



He didn't expand it was extended. You are one dishonest person

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LINK ]Trump EXPANDS government surveillance on American People.

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Some privacy groups said it would actually expand the NSA’s surveillance powers.

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LINK

I’m friends with one. (Not someone on this board, but he’s an intelligent dem.) He made a perfect score on his ACT and went to an excellent highschool and is now going to both George Washington University and Georgetown.

Basically He just doesn’t like the President. He says he’s divisive. He doesn’t like his language, and his walking in front of the queen/“breaking protocol” left him aghast. He says he’s not fit to be president and that he’s an unintelligent narcissist. He says we are fools to believe he genuinely cares about us.

However, he’s gay and admits the President supports gay people, And he admits ANTIFA is nuts and wishes they’d just go away and quit their craziness.

Regarding issues and policies:
He doesn’t believe the wall will fix anything. He’s says we’d spend all this money and the illegals would come in another way. I told him it would reduce the amount who come in. He disagrees.
He also throws out the “it’s cruel because some people are seeking asylum from abuse” argument

He is a staunch supporter of planned parenthood so our wanting to defund it gets him in a tizzy.

He says Pres trump promised to reduce the deficit but has not. And he doesn’t agree with more military spending. When I say taxpayers shouldn’t be forced to pay for abortions, he throws this out at me: “Well, with that mentality, there’s a lot of military decisions many taxpayers disagree with, but we are still forced to fund the military.” (He is not anti-military. He didn’t like that Pres Trump increased military spending, however.)

He’s worried Judge Kavanaugh will make gay marriage illegal, so he thinks the Pres should have appointed someone else.

He was mad about some rule the president changed about homosexual ambassadors. He said unlike a hetero ambassador/ diplomat, Obama made it to where a homosexual ambassador did not not have to be married to their partner to bring their partner with them to America because gay marriage isn't an option in some countries. Pres Trump just “overturned” this. like heterosexual couples, they now have to be married in order for their partner to be granted citizenship. He says that’s unfair.

He doesn’t believe the right to bear arms should be taken away, but he thinks there needs to be regulations on the types of guns citizens can purchase.

He used to love Rachel Madcow but now he says he doesn’t. He says she emotionally lectures her viewers feeding them all kinds of opinions of hers while telling them these opinions are facts or are laws. He says Judge Jeanine does the same thing. He can’t stand Judge Jeanine. He thinks Don Lemon is nauseating, and he loathes Tucker. His favorite journalist is Anderson Coooper. He thinks he hung the moon and says he is honest in his reporting.

He thinks it’s dumb that the Dems keep trotting out stormy Daniels. He says it’s no one’s business who people have consentual sex with except for that person’s spouse if the person is married.

I can tell he thinks Blasey Ford was lying. However, he says that due process isn’t necessary in qualifying for the Supreme Court. He says Ford didn’t have to prove Kavanaugh was guilty because it wasn’t a trial. I can tell he knows that this is wrong considering that if this becomes the standard then any one and everyone can accuse a nominee of anything and everything with no proof moving forward. So what I think he’s doing here is lying because he just didn’t want Kav to be seated. He’s rolling with the “by any means necessary”
Lying is ok here because Kav might overturn Roe and gay marriage.

I can tell he knows he’s wrong on the wall. He just has to vomit the talking point he’s given by his professors etc on this issue so that his peers don’t think he’s racist. He knows the wall is a security issue though and that supporting it doesn’t make you racist.

The other “concerns” of his are genuine though. He truly thinks they are problems and he’s not just spewing them to fall in line with Dem marching orders