re: There are a lot of &quot;conservatives&quot; who want to end the MAGA/America First Populism.

Posted by Toomer Deplorable

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Posted on 10/4/23 at 8:19 pm to lsuguy84

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frick off, Hank

Is this new alter Hank? I thought it might be HHTM.

Hank has been missing in action lately. Is he in the hoosegow?

Whatever the case, it seems the McCarthy imbroglio was the impetus for this new account. If Gaetz’s maneuver did nothing else, it certainly triggered all the right people!

This post was edited on 10/4/23 at 8:53 pm

Posted by SlowFlowPro

With populists, expect populism

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Posted on 10/4/23 at 8:20 pm to Bass Tiger

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Of course they are who said otherwise?

I dunno, but multiple people got hung up on the union comment when it was illustrative and not exclusive.

Posted by goatmilker

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Posted on 10/4/23 at 8:20 pm to SlowFlowPro

I can't make headway against your tortured logic.
Imbeciles sometimes win.
Congrats

Posted by Toomer Deplorable

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Posted on 10/4/23 at 8:33 pm to aubie101

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Neoconservatives aren’t conservative

Neoconservatives certainly don’t support the principles of limited government. Yet what Republican presidential candidate since at least the end of the Cold War actually has?

Posted by rmnldr

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Posted on 10/4/23 at 9:03 pm to RCDfan1950

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Fascism...'Government control of everything'. You've got it already but for those few "Conservatives" who don't want their treasure and children coerced into a Pagan culture and God only knows what else.

That’s not fascism.

Posted by Flats

Member since Jul 2019

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Posted on 10/4/23 at 9:12 pm to Tchefuncte Tiger

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What's trashy about this?

quote:
Pop·u·lism
/'päpy??liz(?)m/
noun

1.
a political approach that strives to appeal to ordinary people who feel that their concerns are disregarded by established elite groups:
"the question is whether he will tone down his fiery populism now that he has joined the political establishment"

It also applies to BLM; that's the issue. It's not a consistent ideology by definition, it's just whatever the underdog is bitching about.

Posted by geoag58

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Posted on 10/4/23 at 9:15 pm to Bass Tiger

Yea they're called RINO'S

Posted by Tchefuncte Tiger

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Posted on 10/4/23 at 9:20 pm to Flats

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It also applies to BLM; that's the issue. It's not a consistent ideology by definition, it's just whatever the underdog is bitching about.

True.

Posted by wackatimesthree

Member since Oct 2019

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Posted on 10/4/23 at 9:26 pm to dgnx6

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This attack on trump is because they all have a fragile ego.

quote:
Hillary Clinton

Again, y'all are so dumb it's amazing.

I didn't vote for Hillary Clinton. I voted for Trump against Clinton. I'll vote for Trump against Biden if he wins the nomination and can stay out of prison (which I already said in the previous post).

That doesn't mean I have to erroneously elevate Trump's motivation.

What has happened to education in America such that so many people cannot process any nuance whatsoever?

This post was edited on 10/4/23 at 9:27 pm

Posted by Oneforthemoney

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Posted on 10/4/23 at 9:45 pm to Bass Tiger

Definition of real conservatism would be Classical Liberalism

This post was edited on 10/4/23 at 9:45 pm

Posted by BuckyCheese

Member since Jan 2015

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Posted on 10/4/23 at 9:48 pm to wackatimesthree

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What has happened to education in America such that so many people cannot process any nuance whatsoever?

Binary thinking is common among the smooth brains on both sides of the political divide.

Posted by Jake88

Member since Apr 2005

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Posted on 10/4/23 at 9:52 pm to jlnoles79

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Populism is trash

Huey Long was a populist. How's has that gone for Louisiana?

Posted by Hooligan's Ghost

Member since Jul 2013

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Posted on 10/4/23 at 10:02 pm to boosiebadazz

what first order principles do real Conservatives have that the MAGA/America First movement does not have?

Posted by Jake88

Member since Apr 2005

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Posted on 10/4/23 at 10:06 pm to Hooligan's Ghost

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what first order principles do real Conservatives have that the MAGA/America First movement does not have?

Reduction in government spending.

Posted by Midtiger farm

Member since Nov 2014

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Posted on 10/4/23 at 10:06 pm to Hooligan's Ghost

Trump isn’t even a populist especially right wing populist- he socially liberal and loves Wall Street

JD Vance , Hawley , viktor orban are populist

Posted by LaMigra

Member since Nov 2022

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Posted on 10/4/23 at 10:10 pm to jlnoles79

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Populism is trash

This isn’t populism you ignorant fool! That’s what happens when you go to such a shitty university!

America First is not about populism, Trump is not about populism. Trump is about ending the worthless corrupt politicians that keep selling this country to the highest bidder and fricking American workers and companies for cheaper labor and production outside of this country. It’s about standing up for Americans and putting Americans first! If you have a problem with that, than you are a ducking idiot of enormous proportions, and no amount of explaining will make a dent on that thick empty dumb brain of yours!!

Posted by Jake88

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Posted on 10/4/23 at 10:17 pm to LaMigra

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Trump is about ending the worthless corrupt politicians that keep selling this country to the highest bidder

By putting them in his cabinet?

Posted by David_DJS

Member since Aug 2005

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Posted on 10/4/23 at 10:19 pm to Jake88

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By putting them in his cabinet?

Yes. It's a new kind of winning. Very complicated but who can argue with the results?