re: The Worlds Greatest Strawman:Confederate Monuments

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belong in Confederate Grave yards, not in middle of Cities, and parks.

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Maybe in the land of the Yankee

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No, most were from the United Daughters of the Confederacy

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A Democrat Hate Group, akin to the Democrat's #1 Terrorist Organization, the KKK...

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Many commentators have said the UDC simply supported the Klan. That is not true. The UDC during Jim Crow venerated the Klan and elevated it to a nearly mythical status. It dealt in and preserved Klan artifacts and symbology. It even served as a sort of public relations agency for the terrorist group."[53] At its 1913 annual national convention, the UDC unanimously endorsed The Ku Klux Klan, or The Invisible Empire,[54] a book written by UDC historian Laura Martin Rose,[55] then president of the UDC's Mississippi Division. Published near the height of the UDC's Confederate statue-installation and textbook-vetting efforts, the book was a supplementary reader for Southern school children.[56][57] A local chapter of the UDC funded a now-vanished[6] memorial to the Klan near Concord, North Carolina.[58] As late as 1936, the UDC's official publication featured an article which lauded the role of the Ku Klux Klan

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Cool, then let's establish who has ownership of each one and ask them to move them. If taxpayer money is to be used, then the taxpayers should decide via voting.

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The DNC should move them, they are responsible for the monuments, the confederacy, slavery, all of it

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The truth is, America does have a racist history and the Monuments came into existence during and due to the darkest times in our history.

Perhaps the reason Democrats now lead the charge to erase those monuments is because Democrats dont want you to realize that it's THEIR legacy, ole dixie is DEMOCRAT Legacy, not white America, not Republicans who defeated the CSA, ended slavery, ended Jim Crow and passed Civil rights...

The monuments were brought to us by Democrats, Democrats can take them back now so long as we all know whose legacy they are really toppling

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Trying to overlay the parties from over a century ago to now is truly and obviously stupid. Stop trying so hard.

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The Worlds Greatest Strawman

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The Worlds Greatest Strawman is supposed "systemic" white American racism forwarded by definitively racist blacks

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Trying to overlay the parties from over a century ago to now is truly and obviously stupid. Stop trying so hard.

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Yet Im fricking responsible for "systemic racism" because some people with my skin tone owned fricking slaves 200 fricking years ago?

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I don't know if YOU are responsible or not.

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Well, im not a Democrat so, no

Confederate Soldiers and the Rednecks that fly the Confederate Flag are still better people and bigger Patriots than Democrats, BLM and Anti-Fa.....FACT.

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belong in Confederate Grave yards, not in middle of Cities, and parks.

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Until Confederate graveyards have been deemed offensive

If you go to England and ask non immigrant families which side of English civil war their ancestors fought on almost universally it was with the cavaliers. The roundheads won but have little to nothing to show for those military victories. Their military victories are all but forgotten as the romance of the lost cause has made the cavaliers histories real winner. The dashing young man fighting for king and country is the image that families want to claim a piece of. Really does anyone claim roundhead ancestry.

That’s a huge part of the south’s attachment to the CSA. The south use to identify with the rural gentry of the English countryside. And the dashing young man fighting for the lost cause fits the narrative and like the cavaliers of England everything else gets lost in the legend and lost importance over time.

Daughters of the confederacy and other groups honor that legacy and romance of what they imagine was a simpler, better time. Slavery isn’t part of that image, the horrible death and destruction isn’t part of that image. The image is of dashing young men going to fight and die for God and country and that’s what those monuments represent.

The average soldiers of the CSA couldn’t give a shite about a slave or slavery. The institution was dying off. Automation was rendering slavery obsolete and economic factors were reducing the importance of southern cotton in the world markets. Given another couple generations US slavery was ending on its own. If congress had followed the European model of ending slavery and used a combination of staggered emancipation and compensation for emancipation the whole mess would have been avoided. Even if the south had succeeded in maintaining independence slavery was doomed.

Ironically neither side really cared about slavery. The northern cities balked at the idea of sending their sons to die slaves and recruiting often led to riots after the volunteers dried up. Often the anger resulted in free blacks being killed and black businesses being burned. If troops fighting had not voted to keep Lincoln as president it’s likely that the emancipation proclamation cost Lincoln his second term. But the voting of the Army of the Potomac had too many veterans that wanted to see the war through.