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re: The Wall and the Land it will take to build it.
Posted on 1/10/19 at 2:21 pm to hawkeye007
Posted on 1/10/19 at 2:21 pm to hawkeye007
Another diversion. Will turn out to be a non-issue.
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Posted on 1/10/19 at 2:21 pm to hawkeye007
not much difference in a right of way along a highway, or a servitude on your property.
do you think anyone buildings anything other then a fence on the countries property line........
do you think anyone buildings anything other then a fence on the countries property line........
Posted on 1/10/19 at 2:22 pm to Azkiger
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What you do is you build the wall on the land you can, and when thousands of immigrants are being funneled onto their property they'll change their minds.
Beat me to it.
Posted on 1/10/19 at 2:23 pm to JoBoo
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In summary: GOP has abandoned their principles completely and stands only for what Trump tells them to stand for.
That only exists in your mind.
shame shame shame.
Posted on 1/10/19 at 2:25 pm to Y.A. Tittle
quote:water, among other issues.
I don't really get this as an "issue." Are a lot of people at risk of being denied seriously useful portions of their property by the government potentially commandeering via eminent domain the strip of it that constitutes the freaking border with Mexico? How so?
Let’s say that the government takes a 100 foot strip right along the river. Ranches in far west Texas are big. The amount of land is really not that big an issue. But, the Rio Grande is in all likelihood the only source of water in the pasture in question. As such, the government might only be technically “taking“ a few hundred acres, but it will be rendering thousands of acres utterly useless for grazing.
This post was edited on 1/10/19 at 2:28 pm
Posted on 1/10/19 at 2:25 pm to Ten Bears
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environmental impact, endangered species law suits, etc would tie this thing up for years.
I thought Trump reeled those in?
Posted on 1/10/19 at 2:26 pm to hawkeye007
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I am not a fan of eminent domain at all. Thoughts?
You must feel really conflicted every time you drive on public streets.
I mean, we are talking about land on the border of our country. It's not like they are building through the middle of someone's property.
Most of the court challenges involve land owners who do not feel as though they are getting fair market values for the land. I have no issue at all with challenging government to get fair compensation for land.
Posted on 1/10/19 at 2:28 pm to Azkiger
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But not the illegals and the added strain on our education system, healthcare, and other welfare programs right?
just saying, seems likely that all the wall price estimates we've seen thrown around are lowball after all the hassles with getting land are done
but to your point, a wall wouldn't rid us of the illegals already here, nor would it stop a majority of the new ones we have every year
Posted on 1/10/19 at 2:31 pm to AggieHank86
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water, among other issues.
Let’s say that the government takes a 100 foot strip right along the river. Ranches in far west Texas are big. The amount of land is really not that big an issue. But, the Rio Grande is in all likelihood the only source of water in the pasture in question. As such, the government might only be technically “taking“ a few hundred acres, but it will be rendering thousands of acres utterly useless for grazing.
Perhaps, but the article doesn't say anything about such a thing. It's weird, if that's the big issue here.
Posted on 1/10/19 at 2:31 pm to hawkeye007
Highway came through years ago changing from 2 lanes to 4. They took a very large section from infront of the family home. Including some very old, historic trees. Sucks but nothing we could do about it.
I didn't want the 4 lane. Didn't think we needed it. Didn't agree to it. Doesn't matter.
I didn't want the 4 lane. Didn't think we needed it. Didn't agree to it. Doesn't matter.
Posted on 1/10/19 at 2:33 pm to KosmoCramer
i was a little shocked that there wasn't an easement in place. That is why i brought the topic up. With out and easement this is going to be a huge delay. There are ranchers who will welcome this but there is a also a % of land owners who will not welcome this.
Posted on 1/10/19 at 2:34 pm to Y.A. Tittle
quote:As I understand it, much of the land in question, outside of Texas, is federal land and is leased tto ranchers. Thus it is not a big issue for those properties. The ranchers, I suppose, could simply cease to lease land as to which they have no water (of course, there’s not a water boundary for the vast majority of the remainder of the southern border).
Perhaps, but the article doesn't say anything about such a thing. It's weird, if that's the big issue here.
In Texas, it is a major issue.
Posted on 1/10/19 at 2:34 pm to JoBoo
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JoBoo
Posted on 1/10/19 at 2:35 pm to AggieHank86
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As such, the government might only be technically “taking“ a few hundred acres, but it will be rendering thousands of acres utterly useless for grazing.
And if that is the case, then the government will have to compensate for the land that is no longer usable OR provide the landowner with funding for other options, like say drilling deep wells if possible...
Posted on 1/10/19 at 2:35 pm to hawkeye007
The safety and security of our families comes first. Like you I am not a fan of eminent domain, but this issue is made for that.
BUILD THE WALL!
BUILD THE WALL!
Posted on 1/10/19 at 2:36 pm to Y.A. Tittle
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I don't really get this as an "issue." Are a lot of people at risk of being denied seriously useful portions of their property by the government potentially commandeering via eminent domain the strip of it that constitutes the freaking border with Mexico? How so?
So someone else gets to dictate how important my land is to me?
Posted on 1/10/19 at 2:37 pm to hawkeye007
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How does the board feel about the possibility of the Govt talking peoples land through eminent domain.
You think this is a new issue?
Think about that next time you drive down a street.
Posted on 1/10/19 at 2:37 pm to hawkeye007
90% of the landowners have wanted a wall for decades.
Posted on 1/10/19 at 2:38 pm to Big Scrub TX
quote:Why not? We had issues with Odrama's waterways bullshite, had to fight to get old terraces removed from our own fricking land.
So someone else gets to dictate how important my land is to me?
Posted on 1/10/19 at 2:40 pm to Big Scrub TX
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So someone else gets to dictate how important my land is to me?
You own land on the border?
And, yes, if it is determined that it is eminent domain, then your feelings do not matter and only the market value of your property does...
This post was edited on 1/10/19 at 2:42 pm
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