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re: The Wall and the Land it will take to build it.

Posted on 1/10/19 at 2:41 pm to
Posted by AggieHank86
Texas
Member since Sep 2013
44345 posts
Posted on 1/10/19 at 2:41 pm to
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90% of the landowners have wanted a wall for decades.
Alex, I will take “statistics pulled out of someone’s arse” for $500 please
Posted by Y.A. Tittle
Member since Sep 2003
110911 posts
Posted on 1/10/19 at 2:42 pm to
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So someone else gets to dictate how important my land is to me?


I mean, for better or worse, the concept of eminent domain is pretty well established in American law. You've never struck me as someone who might be willing to overturn such a well established notion. I certainly haven't seen anything from you on this issue before now. Is that something you're onboard with on property rights across the board?
Posted by Jack Bauers HnK
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2008
6078 posts
Posted on 1/10/19 at 2:52 pm to
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There are ranchers who will welcome this but there is a also a % of land owners who will not welcome this.


Anyone have a link that gives an idea how many landowners representing how many linear miles of border will not voluntarily allow a border wall to be built on their property?

If we built the wall everywhere else but these hypothetical properties, at least we would be funneling them down to specific regions and maybe those landowners would get with the program.
Posted by msu202020
Member since Feb 2011
4330 posts
Posted on 1/10/19 at 2:59 pm to
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GOP has abandoned their principles


Like the GOP has had any principles in a long time...
Posted by Big Scrub TX
Member since Dec 2013
39848 posts
Posted on 1/10/19 at 3:00 pm to
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I mean, for better or worse, the concept of eminent domain is pretty well established in American law. You've never struck me as someone who might be willing to overturn such a well established notion. I certainly haven't seen anything from you on this issue before now. Is that something you're onboard with on property rights across the board?
Quite the contrary. Just surprised to hear how casually some of the "small government" types on here are willing to submit to eminent domain.
Posted by The Maj
Member since Sep 2016
30551 posts
Posted on 1/10/19 at 3:01 pm to
Ill ask you again...

Do you own property on the border?
This post was edited on 1/10/19 at 3:02 pm
Posted by dr smartass phd
RIP 8/19
Member since Sep 2004
20387 posts
Posted on 1/10/19 at 3:06 pm to
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How does the board feel about the possibility of the Govt talking peoples land through eminent domain. This to me is the issue that now one is talking about. It will hold up the wall for years in court. I am not a fan of eminent domain at all. Thoughts?




Hanford, Oak Ridge, Los Alamos
Posted by Y.A. Tittle
Member since Sep 2003
110911 posts
Posted on 1/10/19 at 3:08 pm to
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Just surprised to hear how casually some of the "small government" types on here are willing to submit to eminent domain.


How many posters here are being asked to?
Posted by UAinSOUTHAL
Mobile,AL
Member since Dec 2012
5300 posts
Posted on 1/10/19 at 3:09 pm to
Why is this even a topic. There is a 60 foot easement for most of the border established in 1907. The parts that don't have an easement will be acquired thru eminent domain if they don't accept the governments offer to buy the land strips.
Posted by The Maj
Member since Sep 2016
30551 posts
Posted on 1/10/19 at 3:17 pm to
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There is a 60 foot easement for most of the border established in 1907. The parts that don't have an easement will be acquired thru eminent domain if they don't accept the governments offer to buy the land strips.


None of TX is included in the Roosevelt Reservation.
Posted by awestruck
Member since Jan 2015
14593 posts
Posted on 1/10/19 at 3:17 pm to
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water, among other issues.

Let’s say that the government takes a 100 foot strip right along the river. Ranches in far west Texas are big. The amount of land is really not that big an issue. But, the Rio Grande is in all likelihood the only source of water in the pasture in question. As such, the government might only be technically “taking“ a few hundred acres, but it will be rendering thousands of acres utterly useless for grazing.

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Perhaps, but the article doesn't say anything about such a thing. It's weird, if that's the big issue here.

seems big down on the border LINK

Nearly every lawmaker who represents a district or state along the U.S.-Mexico border — including two Republicans — either opposes outright or more quietly declines to support President Donald Trump’s $5.7 billion request for a border wall, according to a survey conducted by POLITICO.
Posted by BBONDS25
Member since Mar 2008
59463 posts
Posted on 1/10/19 at 3:22 pm to
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It will hold up the wall for years in court. I


No it won’t. It will be expedited and happen within months.
Posted by The Maj
Member since Sep 2016
30551 posts
Posted on 1/10/19 at 3:23 pm to
eight of nine border lawmakers are Democrats.

Yeah this is not really a big deal and Cornyn has not said that he does not support it...

I swear can you fricks read or not?
Posted by BBONDS25
Member since Mar 2008
59463 posts
Posted on 1/10/19 at 3:26 pm to
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In Texas, it is a major issue.


How do they access the water in the rio grande currently?
Posted by BBONDS25
Member since Mar 2008
59463 posts
Posted on 1/10/19 at 3:27 pm to
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So someone else gets to dictate how important my land is to me?

Like you own land.
Posted by BBONDS25
Member since Mar 2008
59463 posts
Posted on 1/10/19 at 3:28 pm to
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Alex, I will take “statistics pulled out of someone’s arse” for $500 please


Agreed. The percentage is likely much higher.
Posted by texag7
College Station
Member since Apr 2014
41305 posts
Posted on 1/10/19 at 3:29 pm to
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Nearly every lawmaker who represents a district or state along the U.S.-Mexico border — including two Republicans — either opposes outright or more quietly declines to support President Donald Trump’s $5.7 billion request for a border wall,


Well no shite. All of those counties are heavily democrat due to all the god damn fricking illegals flooding in
Posted by junkfunky
Member since Jan 2011
36317 posts
Posted on 1/10/19 at 3:30 pm to
There should be a permanent 100' right of way along the border anyway.
Posted by BBONDS25
Member since Mar 2008
59463 posts
Posted on 1/10/19 at 3:31 pm to
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Quite the contrary. Just surprised to hear how casually some of the "small government" types on here are willing to submit to eminent domain.


tell us your understanding of what “small government” types are for. Hint: border security is one of the things they are for.
Posted by TOKEN
Member since Feb 2014
11990 posts
Posted on 1/10/19 at 3:32 pm to
Bush tried this and many of those cases are still in court
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