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re: The US trade deficit PLUMMETS 16% in one month, from May to June.

Posted on 8/5/25 at 9:34 am to
Posted by Flats
Member since Jul 2019
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Posted on 8/5/25 at 9:34 am to
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I think the anti-tariff brigade had two fundamental flaws in their predictions:


Anybody that suggested tariffs weren't magical wealth creation machines was considered to be "anti-tariff", and you still still see a fundamental lack of understanding here concerning trade deficits. A trade deficit or surplus on its own isn't a predictor of much.
Posted by tigerfan 64
in the LP
Member since Sep 2016
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Posted on 8/5/25 at 9:36 am to
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The US trade deficit PLUMMETS 16% in one month, from May to June.
The posters on this board who are always right.........were wrong again.
Posted by BTROleMisser
Murica'
Member since Nov 2017
9215 posts
Posted on 8/5/25 at 9:40 am to
TDSFP, Roger, Sammich et al. are not going to like this news one bit...
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
133550 posts
Posted on 8/5/25 at 9:40 am to
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The US trade deficit PLUMMETS 16% in one month
WAIT!!!

Are you telling us that if stuff costs more then people buy less of that stuff??

THAT'S AMAZING!!!
Posted by Powerman
Member since Jan 2004
170588 posts
Posted on 8/5/25 at 9:41 am to
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2. They thought a 50% tariff was going to increase the cost of $100 imports to $150. It doesn't work that way. Tariffs are not applied to retail prices.

Because it's just one cost input. I've made the same argument about minimum wage. If you increase the minimum wage by 25% the cost of all goods won't go up by 25%.
Posted by onepiecemayne
Member since Nov 2023
875 posts
Posted on 8/5/25 at 9:41 am to
People who think buying a case of Bud Light is a big deal usually don’t care about the struggles American businesses face to stay profitable.
Posted by BTROleMisser
Murica'
Member since Nov 2017
9215 posts
Posted on 8/5/25 at 9:43 am to
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Anybody that suggested tariffs weren't magical wealth creation machines was considered to be "anti-tariff", and you still still see a fundamental lack of understanding here concerning trade deficits. A trade deficit or surplus on its own isn't a predictor of much.


Stop. Just take the L and move on...
Posted by Flats
Member since Jul 2019
26892 posts
Posted on 8/5/25 at 9:43 am to
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If you increase the minimum wage by 25% the cost of all goods won't go up by 25%.


Of course not.

But they will go up.
Posted by Seldom Seen
Member since Feb 2016
48737 posts
Posted on 8/5/25 at 9:43 am to
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With a lot of manufacturers volume is more of a priority than profit.



Nonsense. Volume doesn't matter if you aren't profitable. In business profit is everything.


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Tariffs are not applied to retail prices.



They most certainly are. Nobody is "eating" a 50%+ cost increase.
Posted by FLTech
Member since Sep 2017
24833 posts
Posted on 8/5/25 at 9:44 am to
I remember your president Jill and Kamala lied about 800,000 extra jobs
Posted by BTROleMisser
Murica'
Member since Nov 2017
9215 posts
Posted on 8/5/25 at 9:44 am to
The TDS f@gs are showing up insist they weren't wrong... again.
Posted by Flats
Member since Jul 2019
26892 posts
Posted on 8/5/25 at 9:45 am to
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Stop. Just take the L and move on...


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and you still still see a fundamental lack of understanding here concerning trade deficits.


I didn't really need another data point but thanks anyway.
Posted by GeauxBurrow312
Member since Nov 2024
4997 posts
Posted on 8/5/25 at 9:45 am to
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Are you telling us that if stuff costs more then people buy less of that stuff??


People are still making and buying stuff. Excluding 2021 which is fake (recovery from COVID shutdowns), we are on track for the biggest GDP growth since 2018, and before that 2005.

The US is back. Sorry your friends in Canada and Europe are not doing too well
Posted by prouddawg
Member since Sep 2024
7115 posts
Posted on 8/5/25 at 9:46 am to
It’s almost like a billionaire businessman knows more about the economy than bureaucrats.
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
138911 posts
Posted on 8/5/25 at 9:51 am to
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They thought it was 1929 still.


And judging by some posts, they didn't know tariffs existed until now.


The depression being caused by tariffs is fake news. It was caused by the Federal Reserve not providing sufficient liquidity in the banking system.


Posted by tigerfoot
Alexandria
Member since Sep 2006
60664 posts
Posted on 8/5/25 at 9:51 am to
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We can't trust the employment numbers but we can trust the trade numbers.....got it!
Hence the need for accuracy in all reporting. Agree?
Posted by Flats
Member since Jul 2019
26892 posts
Posted on 8/5/25 at 9:54 am to
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we are on track for the biggest GDP growth since 2018, and before that 2005.



That's a MUCH better indicator of an improving economy than a movement on trade deficits. A lot of dirt poor countries have trade surpluses.
Posted by Ten Bears
Florida
Member since Oct 2018
4721 posts
Posted on 8/5/25 at 9:54 am to
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BREAKING: The US trade deficit PLUMMETS 16% in one month, from May to June.



So the following are ALL down:

Imports are down
Exports are down
Manufacturing is down
Service sector is down

Tell me why this should be celebrated?
This post was edited on 8/5/25 at 10:10 am
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
138911 posts
Posted on 8/5/25 at 9:54 am to
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Anybody that suggested tariffs weren't magical wealth creation machines was considered to be "anti-tariff"


My argument for tariffs were as follows:

1. Protectionism.
2. Tax burden diversification.
3. National security.

Wealth creation is not a good argument.
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
133550 posts
Posted on 8/5/25 at 9:55 am to
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People are still making and buying stuff.
Apparently you don't know the difference between GDP and the trade deficit.

That's pretty basic stuff I learned about in ECON 1001 when I was 19 years old.
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