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re: The U.S. Supreme Court blocks President Trump from deporting Venezuelan Aliens
Posted on 5/16/25 at 4:45 pm to John Barron
Posted on 5/16/25 at 4:45 pm to John Barron
No they didn't, they sent the case back down saying courts should not be getting involved. All they basically said is 24 hours is not enough time that could be them just saying at least give his lawyers time to inform his family etc. etc.
The merits of the case was not decided, by sending it back down with that warning, they were basically telling that judge to rule he can deport these people or else they will have to overturn his ruling.
The merits of the case was not decided, by sending it back down with that warning, they were basically telling that judge to rule he can deport these people or else they will have to overturn his ruling.
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Posted on 5/16/25 at 4:46 pm to SlowFlowPro
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This argument gives the President literally infinite powers with no avenue for redress
Only with respect to those illegally entering the nation (which was previously under the authority of the executive) - particularly those violent intent being the AEA use
Posted on 5/16/25 at 4:47 pm to boosiebadazz
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The citation used by the court to make this ruling should be (re)examined, then.
You mean the Fifth Amendment?
Yes, I do. The Constitution is a great document, but it’s not infallible. That goes for the amendments, as well. We’re back to intent vs. letter of the law on a Constitutional level. Hell, the Constitution required amending before it was even ratified, and that was at the time it was written, not almost 250 years later. The Anti-Federalists recognized it and got it done as a condition of ratification.
I’ll toss the 18th Amendment out there, too.
Posted on 5/16/25 at 4:47 pm to SlowFlowPro
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There is no invasion
I disagree, as do those that have been victimized by the invaders.
Posted on 5/16/25 at 4:49 pm to SundayFunday
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Only with respect to those illegally entering the nation
We were talking about suspending habeas in that digression, just FWIW.
Posted on 5/16/25 at 4:49 pm to jimmy the leg
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I disagree, as do those that have been victimized by the invaders.
Facts don't care about your feelings.
Posted on 5/16/25 at 4:50 pm to TBoy
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That’s the key phrase. People can be deported under the usual law.
Are terrorists only enemies of America if they are domestic caucasians?
Posted on 5/16/25 at 4:50 pm to Riverside
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The Supreme Court is only remanding the case to the Fifth Circuit to determine what “notice” aliens under the AEA are entitled to before they can be removed. I would say 5-7 days notice is likely reasonable under the circumstances.
Interestingly, the Court isn’t ruling Trump can’t use the AEA, only that more than 24 hours notice to an alien is required to remove the alien. The Court also says the AEA cases have to be adjudicated quickly by the courts.
Not really a “victory” for the open borders crowd.
Agreed. Kicking it back to the 5th is annoying stalling by SCOTUS but Fifth Circuit isn't exactly friendly territory for illegal immigrants. They denied the illegal Venezuelans' appeal the first time, that's why this ended up at SCOTUS.
quote:SCOTUS Blog
In the wake of those instructions, a group of Venezuelan men in immigration custody in the northern region of Texas went to federal court on April 16, seeking once again to block their removal under the Alien Enemies Act.
U.S. District Judge James Wesley Hendrix denied their request, indicating that the detainees were likely “not facing such an imminent threat.”
The detainees returned to Hendrix and renewed their request, telling him that some of them had been notified that their removal could indeed occur at any moment. Moreover, they told him, even the men who had received notices had only received notices in English, even though most of them speak only Spanish, and the notices did not inform the men that they can challenge their designation as “alien enemies.”
When Hendrix had not yet acted on their request, the detainees went to the 5th Circuit and then to the Supreme Court. Shortly before 1 a.m. on April 19, the Supreme Court ordered the government “not to remove any member of” the would-be class of detainees from the United States unless and until the Supreme Court indicates otherwise.
In its unsigned opinion on Friday afternoon, the justices explained that the court of appeals was wrong when it dismissed the detainees’ appeal on the ground that it lacked the power to review it. Appeals courts, the court reasoned, have the power to review non-final orders that “have ‘the practical effect of refusing an injunction.’” When a federal district court does not take action “in the face of extreme urgency and a high risk of ‘serious, perhaps irreparable,’ consequences may have” precisely that effect – as Hendrix’s failure to rule on the detainees’ request for more than 14 hours did, the court concluded.
Posted on 5/16/25 at 4:53 pm to SlowFlowPro
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As JE posted earlier, it's clear that the Court is not happy with how the admin is using the AEA and keeps allowing the admin to try to unfrick itself (and it keeps failing).
Just to be clear - i didnt exactly sat that. The Court is peeved at how the specific Garcia situation (not AEA) went down. For that reason they are, as nicely as can be said, playing loose with their appellate jurisdiction.
But yeah, they are pissed and the government is not going to get any benefit of the doubt on these matters.
Posted on 5/16/25 at 4:53 pm to loogaroo
How much notice do illegals give that they are going to cross the US border?
Posted on 5/16/25 at 4:54 pm to SlowFlowPro
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I disagree, as do those that have been victimized by the invaders.
Facts don't care about your feelings.
It’s not facts, though. It’s just different feelings in a robe.
You probably wouldn’t get so much shite if you weren’t so fricking smug.
Posted on 5/16/25 at 4:54 pm to JimEverett
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But yeah, they are pissed and the government is not going to get any benefit of the doubt on these matters.
So... what you're saying is these justices are making their ruling based.on improper, extraneous factors and not on the facts/law.
All the more basis to ignore their rulings.
Posted on 5/16/25 at 4:59 pm to High C
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You probably wouldn’t get so much shite if you weren’t so fricking smug
I'm using the popular sayings of the MAGA crowd. Nobody called them "smug" when they were using the same words in the same manner.
I get so much shite b/c emotional thinking has overtaken this board, and that being an example of it. The negative impact and crimes has nothing to do with the legal determination of an "invasion"
Posted on 5/16/25 at 5:00 pm to udtiger
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what you're saying is these justices are making their ruling based.on improper, extraneous factors and not on the facts/law.
No
The government isn't being given its usual leeway/deference b/c it has always come off as a ruse.
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All the more basis to ignore their rulings.
Certainly the emotional response the people who keep pushing the bad strategies are relying on.
Posted on 5/16/25 at 5:00 pm to SlowFlowPro
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I disagree, as do those that have been victimized by the invaders.
Facts don't care about your feelings
There is ABSOLUTELY an ongoing invasion
Posted on 5/16/25 at 5:01 pm to udtiger
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So... what you're saying is these justices are making their ruling based.on improper, extraneous factors and not on the facts/law.
All the more basis to ignore their rulings.
Kind of like Lincoln ignored the ex parte Merryman ruling that he did not have the authority to suspend habeas corpus. Lincoln ignored the Chief Justice and habeas remained suspended.
Posted on 5/16/25 at 5:11 pm to mtntiger
This decision looks like it will require that a judge review the case. Something akin to due process, perhaps…The Alien EnemiesAct won’t be available
to grease the skids.
Mr. Garcia may eventually come home.
to grease the skids.
Mr. Garcia may eventually come home.
Posted on 5/16/25 at 5:12 pm to VOR
He's already home.
Posted on 5/16/25 at 5:14 pm to John Barron
If you like the idea of suspending habeas corpus, this is exactly the kind of spark you're looking for.
Posted on 5/16/25 at 5:18 pm to VOR
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This decision looks like it will require that a judge review the case. Something akin to due process, perhaps…The Alien EnemiesAct won’t be available
to grease the skids.
Mr. Garcia may eventually come home.
How exactly do you presume that a US court ruling can make the El Salvador government to send a Salvadoran citizen to the US?
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