re: The United Methodist Church’s support for gun control initiatives

My brother and sister in law spoke of the African and Asian countries views on gays. It comes from the years of missionary work done when the gay agenda was preached against very sternly . If it wasn't for the Africa delegation it would have passed a few years ago. I grew up hardcore Pentecostal as my grandfather was a minster. I quickly went away from my upbringing very quickly as a teenager. I started going to church with my wife who grew up Methodist. I call them the Hippies compared to Pentecostal's so i have enjoyed attending church with her. It's short to the point and there is no judgement .

• Banning large-capacity ammunition magazines and weapons designed to fire multiple rounds each time the trigger is pulled

They need to define “large-capacity” and the supreme court needs to address this anti-constitutional regulation for once.

“Multiple rounds each trigger is pulled” - If they mean full auto or burst fire then that is aready heavily regulated and difficult to obtain. If they made a grammatical error and are talking about semi-automatic then that would cover the vast majority of guns.

You might wanna read the scripture that says “ the church is the pillar and bulwark of the truth”

So this means they lose their non-profit exempt status, right?

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Universal background checks on all gun purchases

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Difficult to do with person to person transactions, but if possible, let's see your plan for it.

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Ratification of the Arms Trade Treaty

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Nope! That would be not only a US gun registry but a international gun registry, get bent.

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Ensuring all guns are sold through licensed gun retailers

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Not possible as stated, how do I give my son a firearm, or pass them down upon death?

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Prohibiting all individuals convicted of violent crimes from purchasing a gun for a fixed time period

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CHECK. Already there, not always enforced. Hold the government accountable.

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Prohibiting all individuals under restraining order due to threat of violence from purchasing a gun

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CHECK. Already there, not always enforced. Hold the government accountable.

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Prohibiting all individuals under restraining order due to threat of violence from purchasing a gun

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CHECK. Already there, not always enforced. Hold the government accountable.

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Prohibiting persons with serious mental illness, who pose a danger to themselves and their communities, from purchasing a gun

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CHECK. Already there, not always enforced. Hold the government accountable.

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Ensuring greater access to services for those suffering from mental illness

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Don't see how this fits in with their gun control, but I agree we should give mentally ill people more options to un-ill

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Establishing a minimum age of 21 years for a gun purchase or possession

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If you aren't responsible enough to own a gun at 18, you aren't responsible to own a car or vote. Preach for those changes too.

Also, does that mean that there is no hunting prior to 21 also? hmmmm....

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Banning large-capacity ammunition magazines and weapons designed to fire multiple rounds each time the trigger is pulled

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two parter,

1) get bent, stop trying to restrict the amount of ammo a gun can hold. Start restricting the amount of guns the criminally insane can own. That kids should have never been allowed to see the outside of a cell, let alone buy a firearm.

2) I believe we already have "ban" on guns that fire more than one round with the pull of a trigger. How many automatics have been used in crime or murder over the last 30 years on US soil....I'm listening....

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Promoting new technologies to aid law-enforcement agencies to trace crime guns and promote public safety.

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I all for promoting policing methods, just don't infringe on my Constitutional rights. This sounds a whole lot like a gun registry on steroids, do they expect to not only register every firearm, but also have the government test fire every firearm prior to purchase in order to better track the "fingerprint" of the gun left on bullets? Or are they suggesting we somehow serialize every bullet in a way that they won't be destroyed upon firing and then register every bullet sold to the buyer?


Everything they are saying is "feel good" bullshite with no plan of implementation or way to police. It is a whole lot of nothing, that is only out there so that they can one day say "we tried", that provides nothing of substance and the only way to intact would be to completely shite on the rights of the people as protected by the Constitution.

Shut up and preach to me about God and faith, leaves this crap out of it.

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Don’t know about all that policy but Broadmoor here in BR is where it’s at.

“Love Jesus and take that love and give it to your neighbor as Jesus did”

It’s not hard. Love one another and don’t judge someone because they sin differently than you do.

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In many instances, the church is pushing the congregation, just not in a Christ-centric way.

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They're herding the congregation - telling them what they want to hear to keep contributions coming. Don't kid yourself... harvesting $$ is a huge pre-occupation of churches. They know where to spread the fertilizer.

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I have the gift of a personal relationship with the creator. No thing no judgement or decree by you or anyone will ever stand between that. I wish you good luck.

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Yet another sounds good, un-scriptural, modern false doctrine. Add that one to other false doctrines like: saying the sinners prayer, asking Jesus in to your heart, and once saved always saved. All of those are False doctrines.

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I am sad that 5 lost people downvoted my last post.

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baptism isn't required for salvation.

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And the Bible teaches otherwise?