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weagle99
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The United Methodist Church’s support for gun control initiatives
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8. For United Methodist congregations to advocate at the local and national level for laws that prevent or reduce gun violence. Some of those measures include:

• Universal background checks on all gun purchases

• Ratification of the Arms Trade Treaty

• Ensuring all guns are sold through licensed gun retailers

• Prohibiting all individuals convicted of violent crimes from purchasing a gun for a fixed time period

• Prohibiting all individuals under restraining order due to threat of violence from purchasing a gun

• Prohibiting persons with serious mental illness, who pose a danger to themselves and their communities, from purchasing a gun

• Ensuring greater access to services for those suffering from mental illness

• Establishing a minimum age of 21 years for a gun purchase or possession

• Banning large-capacity ammunition magazines and weapons designed to fire multiple rounds each time the trigger is pulled

• Promoting new technologies to aid law-enforcement agencies to trace crime guns and promote public safety.

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Janky
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They need to stay in their lane and learn their role.


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teke184
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re: The United Methodist Church’s support for gun control initiatives
And people wonder why some churches are losing membership.

If I am in church on Sunday morning, I better be hearing about God and Jesus, not a UN arms trade treaty.


Loserman
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re: The United Methodist Church’s support for gun control initiatives
They support women and queer preachers, They support queer marriage.

even before these drastic departures of the faith they supported sprinkling for baptism and have never even believed baptism was necessary for salvation.

It isn't like they were ever Christian Church anyway.
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Janky
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And people wonder why some churches are losing membership.

If I am in church on Sunday morning, I better be hearing about God and Jesus, not a UN arms trade treaty.


Our FUMC pastor did a sermon on the illegals here in this country about a month ago. I have not stepped foot back in that church since. From talking to others in the church membership has taken a sizable hit.


Teufelhunden
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Establishing a minimum age of 21 years for a gun purchase or possession


So, no hunting under the age of 21? Deer everywhere will support this.


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hawkeye007
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actually they don't openly support gay marriage . It has been shot down the last couple of years at the annual convention. I have 2 Methodist ministers for in laws. Do you have a problem with women behind the pulpit?


Tchefuncte Tiger
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re: The United Methodist Church’s support for gun control initiatives
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• Ratification of the Arms Trade Treaty



Got no further than this gem.


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L.A.
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re: The United Methodist Church’s support for gun control initiatives
Our church is contemplating arming one or two of our ushers. We have an ex-Marine and an ex-gunny sgt from the Army who have volunteered to carry during the services.


Pettifogger
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re: The United Methodist Church’s support for gun control initiatives
It sucks, because UMC is following other mainline churches in becoming vehicles for social justice nutjobs.

It's more than gun violence. UMC basically says employment is a human right and the government's responsibility if the economy can't provide full employment. Some others I'm forgetting as well.

Meanwhile, there is an ongoing "way forward" conference intended to avoid schism over the gay issue. I don't care about the gay debate in general, I care about the Church determining the USG's role in social issues. I want to see a schism on that.

Unfortunately, it's set up to where one side is going to be the loving, inclusive side and the other side will just hate gays.


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mtntiger
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re: The United Methodist Church’s support for gun control initiatives
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They support women and queer preachers, They support queer marriage.


Not entirely correct. While the national church has adopted a pro-gay agenda, it has been rejected by most of the regional conferences.

It's an ongoing fight, but there are still some conferences (like the one I'm in) that stand behind God's Word.


Swoopin
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re: The United Methodist Church’s support for gun control initiatives
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"Render unto Caesar the things that are Caesar's, and unto God the things that are God's"


I don't believe Jesus taught against the possession of spears, swords or regulations around them. This is the area of civics.

Try as they might, the very essence of Protestantism is sticking to that which is described in the Book and only described in the Book. These power-mongers at the head of church organizations espouse their platitudes but there is no official expectation for us as congregants to G.A.S. unless its in the Bible.
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Loserman
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re: The United Methodist Church’s support for gun control initiatives
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Do you have a problem with women behind the pulpit?


I don't but the bible does...

1st Corinthians 14:33,34

For God is not the author of confusion, but of peace, as in all churches of the saints.

Let your women keep silence in the churches: for it is not permitted unto them to speak; but they are commanded to be under obedience, as also saith the law


goatmilker
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re: The United Methodist Church’s support for gun control initiatives
Thats my church

Don't like it very much but not surprised.


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TejasHorn
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re: The United Methodist Church’s support for gun control initiatives
Our church has a plain-clothes cop sitting in every service among the congregation.

As far as what many urban/suburban pastors are messaging these days, it's tied to the word and WWJD, and that certainly clashes with many around here. It's not just the Methodist church.
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BigJim
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meh


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Loserman
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re: The United Methodist Church’s support for gun control initiatives
If Methodists actually believed God's word then they would have never called themselves Methodists.

They would have called themselves Christians only.

They would have never named their church Methodist and would have named themselves by one of the only 2 names the Bible ever named a Church, namely churches of God or churches of Christ.

They also would have never accepted doctrines like they did like, sprinkling for baptism and that baptism isn't required for salvation.

If you want I can go on and on with the error of the Methodist church. I was reared in that unholy tradition.


Pettifogger
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re: The United Methodist Church’s support for gun control initiatives
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They would have never named their church Methodist and would have named themselves by one of the only 2 names the Bible ever named a Church, namely churches of God or churches of Christ.



strikes me as an odd thing to get hung up on


goatmilker
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re: The United Methodist Church’s support for gun control initiatives
Glad my UM church is not like your former unholy church.


Mizzou Mule
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re: The United Methodist Church’s support for gun control initiatives
I'm glad that I left the church of my youth. I love my non-denominational church.



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