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re: The Truth: No One is Born Gay or Trans.
Posted on 8/28/25 at 7:36 am to Bard
Posted on 8/28/25 at 7:36 am to Bard
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Not exactly. No one is born trans, but there are people who are born gay. LINK
I think it’s likely the case that some people are in fact born gay but there are many more who choose to be.
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Posted on 8/28/25 at 7:39 am to Narax
Well thats some retarded shite I just read.
Posted on 8/28/25 at 7:47 am to Narax
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The Truth: No One is Born Gay or Trans
I agree with your sentiment. Outstanding post, but the other side of that coin is that WE are ALL born to do things that we better NOT DO! The Bible teaches that we all have the sin nature and the Apostle Paul said "in my flesh dwelleth no good thing." He also wrote "All have sinned..." I have cravings in my flesh that I was born with, but I better not BE CAUGHT doing them!!
I believe there are many gays with that sinful craving in them. Just because you are born to do something doesn't mean it is RIGHT. It is certainly not right with God!
Posted on 8/28/25 at 7:51 am to Robin Masters
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I think it’s likely the case that some people are in fact born gay but there are many more who choose to be.
I wouldn't be surprised, but I think they would be an even smaller minority than those born that way (speaking specifically of gay/lesbian, not the 5,744,000 "genders").
Posted on 8/28/25 at 6:19 pm to Bard
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The linked study found that 52% of identical male twins of gay men were also gay, compared to 22% of fraternal twins. For females, a 1993 study showed a 48% concordance for identical twins versus 16% for fraternal twins.
So 48% of men and 52% of women who had identical DNA were not gay.
Also that 22% and 16% is shockingly high as well.
This would go to support that nothing in those respective straight people's DNA made them gay.
Again though this is a self selected tiny sample group raised together.
Posted on 8/28/25 at 9:46 pm to Powerman
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Yeah...if it's not a choice to be heterosexual then it likely isn't a choice to be gay anyway
If anything it would take tremendous effort to overcome your "natural" urges. And if it's natural to be heterosexual and only heterosexual then it would take a significant amount of effort to become gay.
No, and the flaw in that logic has been explained. More than once. And you aren't addressing any of the responses points, you're just repeating the same thing over and over again.
Don't look now, but at this moment you are being exactly like the posters here that you continually criticize for ignoring reasonableness and logic in favor of predetermined conclusions.
Be careful, you might lose your self-perception of high ground.
Posted on 8/28/25 at 9:59 pm to Espritdescorps
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I saw a 6 year old sashaying down the sidewalk at the airport one time in the most flamboyant manner possible.
I think some kids are born gay.. that one most certainly was.
Trans? Absolutely not… thats different
I agree with you
I remember in grammar school, you could spot them a mile away
Some hid it better than others
Posted on 8/28/25 at 10:28 pm to IMSA_Fan
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This isn’t true. Some people are born with both sets of reproductive organs.
Oh FFS, do you have any idea how many true hermaphrodites exist?!?
You could fit all of them in the world in a single McDonald’s in Riyad.
Do you really suggest that this extraordinarily rare subset of people dictate 6B people’s behavior?
Posted on 8/28/25 at 11:45 pm to wackatimesthree
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Don't look now, but at this moment you are being exactly like the posters here that you continually criticize for ignoring reasonableness and logic in favor of predetermined conclusions.
Everyone has a religion.
Especially the left.
This is one of those topics that is sheer blasphemy to a certain set.
Posted on 8/29/25 at 4:15 am to Robin Masters
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I think it’s likely the case that some people are in fact born gay but there are many more who choose to
Who in the ever living hell would choose to be gay? As hard as it would be, as much as you would be judged by the exact same people on this board who want you dead or tortured or locked up, and claim you will spend eternity in hell......who would choose that if they did not have to...?
Just think about that for a second and turn the tables....
You were born gay....and in an upside down world, being heterosexual carried that same horrible burden that homosexuality does in our world. You were born having every opportunity to go in the easier, accepted direction without it really psychologically bothering you to be gay. Would you choose being straight just to be judged and abused and in some case killed for it? Why? Your argument makes no sense.
Posted on 8/29/25 at 4:28 am to Narax
quote:Again, as previously pointed out, "born gay" is a misnomer. No one is born heterosexual; no one is born homosexual, no one is born bisexual, because no one is born sexual at all.
everyone implicitly agrees that it is important whether or not people are born gay
OTOH homosexual concordance in isolated twins studies is over 50%, so there is clearly a heritable component to homosexuality. Correlates in which at least 1 twin exhibited K0 or K6 tendencies would further that information, but TTBOMK work at that level of detail has not been done
Posted on 8/29/25 at 5:28 am to Powerman
I’m going to agree with Powerman. That fagot popped out flaming gay
Posted on 8/29/25 at 9:22 am to NC_Tigah
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OTOH homosexual concordance in isolated twins studies is over 50%, so there is clearly a heritable component to homosexuality.
Correlation does not prove causation.
How big is the total data pool for twins raised apart, much less gay twins.
You also have a significant problem with correlated functions of now it's more likely that they are in foster/adoptive care, so you need to look at their likelihood for being gay vs the general population.
But I do agree, no one is born of any sexuality.
But to note, many many people here think it's really important that people must be born gay.
Not at an increased chance, but being born gay and immune to life events.
Posted on 8/29/25 at 9:24 am to ibldprplgld
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Post the studies that prove your opinion.
How the frick could have possibly missed the quoted parts that listed the studies? Its only because you wanted to, I assume
* Neale, Stanley Center for Psychiatric Research at the Harvard Medical School
* Bailey et al., 2016
* American Psychological Association Task Force, 2009
* And just google any twin study, and you get the same conclusion
Posted on 8/29/25 at 9:33 am to Tigahs24Seven
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Who in the ever living hell would choose to be gay?
There is a difference between being born gay, and being able to actively choose your dopamine pathways.
So many human reward pathways are chosen during our childhood by our environment or by pure chance.
It's a religious insistence by some that they must have been born that way.
Again, we know that more and more people are choosing to be gay now over previous generations.
It's popular, gay people are praised on TV, the lifestyle is made seem attractive.
Humans are not immune to training.
You could easily train a dog to be gay.
Don't think we are different.
This post was edited on 8/29/25 at 9:40 am
Posted on 8/29/25 at 9:45 am to Narax
In the animal world, especially primates, homosexual behavior is not a super rare occurrence. Is anyone suggesting that primates other than humans were indoctrinated with “the gay”?
Did you know that twin studies including those reared apart, show significant concordance rates with being “gay”?
The research is clear on homosexuality. Genetics and biology play a role. Not the soul factor. But they play a large role. That being said, environmental factors also play a large role. It is a complex interaction.
Did you know that twin studies including those reared apart, show significant concordance rates with being “gay”?
The research is clear on homosexuality. Genetics and biology play a role. Not the soul factor. But they play a large role. That being said, environmental factors also play a large role. It is a complex interaction.
This post was edited on 8/29/25 at 9:52 am
Posted on 8/29/25 at 9:52 am to Narax
I don't know the science or whatever behind it but if you are not born that way how could any boy/man look at another man's hairy arse and think "I want some of that".
Plus the fact of the shunning you would receive
Plus the fact of the shunning you would receive
Posted on 8/29/25 at 10:57 am to LSUTANGERINE
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Did you know that twin studies including those reared apart, show significant concordance rates with being “gay”?
How many total raised apart twins are you talking about.
I've asked a number of times.
It seems no one wants to mention this.
Posted on 8/29/25 at 11:28 am to Narax
quote:Very few, as isolated twins are a small subset.
How many total raised apart twins are you talking about.
But given that, with homosexual incidence at ~2.5%, the statistical probability of homosexual concordance in two out of two studied pairs (as in the Eckerd Study) would run ~1 in 2.56 million.
Posted on 8/29/25 at 11:30 am to Narax
No one is born gay is an accurate statement, however technically a very small percentage of people can be born with both parts but that is a minuscule amount
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