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re: The tribalism is so out of control and ignorant.
Posted on 5/22/25 at 9:38 am to TigerMan327
Posted on 5/22/25 at 9:38 am to TigerMan327
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How does this bill lead to an increase in the size of government?
Cut from something Dems care about, reassigned to something Cons care about, also defense budget nearly always growing.
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Posted on 5/22/25 at 9:41 am to sidewalkside
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Now Trumps budget reinstates all those DOGE cuts spending and increases the size of the govt adds trillions to the debt and people are pissed that R's voted "no"
I'm not pissed.
I mean, I'm pissed, but not because the (R) guys voted no on massive spending. I'm pissed because for years, the Establishment Uniparty has built and maintained a massive grifting system that enriches them at the expense of those of us out here breaking our backs and bodies every day.
Cut ALL the pork out of the bill, pass the DOGE cuts, and eliminate tax on tips and overtime while reducing overall spending, and I'll be far less pissed. But, unfortunately, the majority of the clowns on "both sides" of the aisle, are allergic to spending cuts.
We are seriously fricked.
Posted on 5/22/25 at 9:46 am to TigerMan327
quote:It's primarily the age old Congressional trick/scam of growth.
How does this bill lead to an increase in the size of government?
In this case, the tax cuts are offset by 3% anticipated growth. CBO is using 1.8% growth. So by CBO standards the tax cuts (considered spending, not less revenue) are an increase in spending by 1.2% as compared to 0% by the finance committee's calculation.
This is only one of several things, but in this bill it is a biggie because it is centered around extending (and adding) tax cuts.
I think the Build Back Better bill used 6% GDP growth (or was it Inflation Reduction Act?) which is why I use the word 'scam'. When used in moderation it isn't a scam; when using 6% growth to justify spending and call it 'net 0 on deficit' it is a scam.
Posted on 5/22/25 at 9:49 am to BTROleMisser
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Expecting EVERYTHING (decades of entrenched corruption) to be fixed four-months into a four year term is insane.
Running your campaign on it and not doing it is insane
Posted on 5/22/25 at 9:52 am to sidewalkside
quote:oh, to which congress person are you referring?
Running your campaign on it and not doing it is insane
Posted on 5/22/25 at 10:06 am to sidewalkside
The problem is no representative is ever going to be in favor of making any real cuts that will impact their communities. Federal spending is spread all over the country in thousands of different ways and no one will ever give up the spending that benefits themselves. Let's look at military spending for example and pick a random military base- Tinker afb in oklahoma, do you really think the congress person for the district that includes that base will ever push for cuts in military spending that will risk the thousands of jobs that base brings to their district?
Its easy to tell everyone else they need to make cuts but no member of congress on either side of the aisle will be in favor of taking away jobs/money from their own constituents.
Its easy to tell everyone else they need to make cuts but no member of congress on either side of the aisle will be in favor of taking away jobs/money from their own constituents.
Posted on 5/22/25 at 10:22 am to FluffyBunnyFeet
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It's more like a "i don't like that our guy is doing this but my only alternative was to be governed by a bunch of radical leftwing lunatics who hate me and want to destroy the country" situation.
fricking thank you... Exactly. AND We still have a Congress full of GOPe, who were set up by Turtle and the uniparty to be led in Congress by his GOPe/uniparty protege, Thune. There's a reason Thune is where he is right now. It's protectionism for the GOPe and uniparty. Until we can primary some of the establishment RINOs, we're going to be in the position of having to negotiate with them to some extent to get anything meaningful passed. The fact TDS crybaby dumbfricks here don't understand that is incredible.
Posted on 5/22/25 at 10:22 am to Seldom Seen
Cry more, you little TDS bitch. 
Posted on 5/22/25 at 10:23 am to Green Chili Tiger
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!! Eat a dick and choke on it, you libtard f@ggot.
Posted on 5/22/25 at 10:25 am to Chancellor
JFC... Cry more, you TDS "true conservative" f@g.
Posted on 5/22/25 at 10:26 am to Flats
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We’d end up in an endless fight
I thought that's why we sent Trump to DC.
So, his four year term is actually only four months? He can't do anything else for the next 3 years and 8 months? fricking idiot.
Posted on 5/22/25 at 10:27 am to sidewalkside
Dude. It's a FOUR YEAR term, not a FOUR MONTHS to do everything you campaigned on or nothing term. You fricking crybaby bitch.
Posted on 5/22/25 at 10:40 am to sidewalkside
Which of fraud and waste were included?
Please elaborate.
Please elaborate.
Posted on 5/22/25 at 10:50 am to sidewalkside
DOGE never saved the money they claimed.
It will be impossible to reduce the debt
while maintaining the tax cuts in the Big Beautiful Bill. That’s math and fact, not political rhetoric.
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It will be impossible to reduce the debt
while maintaining the tax cuts in the Big Beautiful Bill. That’s math and fact, not political rhetoric.
Q
Posted on 5/22/25 at 10:52 am to lake chuck fan
They came up with 163 billion in cuts.......then bumped the military to a trillion.
A couple of years back it was 750 billion and the military said there was 100 billion waste so probably 200 billion. That puts you at 550, with inflation it should be about 600 billion not one trillion.
The f-35 cost is now estimated at 2 trillion, nearly 800 billion over cost. I understand they fined rayethon 30 million for that snafu. Thats one heck of a mfking return on investment. And for a jet fighter when the world has moved on to sats and drones.
Musk said they could use AI from concept to production, build them in one place and save a fortune in time and money. Then for some strange reason people started bombing his car lots, nothing to see here, move along.
A couple of years back it was 750 billion and the military said there was 100 billion waste so probably 200 billion. That puts you at 550, with inflation it should be about 600 billion not one trillion.
The f-35 cost is now estimated at 2 trillion, nearly 800 billion over cost. I understand they fined rayethon 30 million for that snafu. Thats one heck of a mfking return on investment. And for a jet fighter when the world has moved on to sats and drones.
Musk said they could use AI from concept to production, build them in one place and save a fortune in time and money. Then for some strange reason people started bombing his car lots, nothing to see here, move along.
Posted on 5/22/25 at 10:54 am to VOR
You very old retard, Doge had no means by which to save money.
They just pointed out fraud, waste and abuse and that’s why you people started destroying dealerships and vandalizing cars.
Congrats on the big win yesterday when one of you people killed two Israelis. Huge victory for you freaks.
They just pointed out fraud, waste and abuse and that’s why you people started destroying dealerships and vandalizing cars.
Congrats on the big win yesterday when one of you people killed two Israelis. Huge victory for you freaks.
Posted on 5/22/25 at 11:15 am to LuckyTiger
Reduce goverment spending by 50%
Posted on 5/22/25 at 11:17 am to sidewalkside
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Now Trumps budget reinstates all those DOGE cuts spending and increases the size of the govt adds trillions to the debt and people are pissed that R's voted "no"
The flip flopping tribalism "it's ok if our guy does it" but I don't really care about principles is ridiculous.
Did you expect anything less from tCult? They have zero values or ideology, its all based on Trumps mood of the day
Posted on 5/22/25 at 11:18 am to VOR
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DOGE never saved the money they claimed.
"They" didnt claim anything. Your own media screwed up the narrative.
DOGE is simply an advisory board. If you would stop listening to idiots, you too would know this.
Posted on 5/22/25 at 11:27 am to Geauxgurt
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some of us are in the middle
You’re not in the middle, queer.
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