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re: The tariff policy and rollout has been absolutely terrible. Mass confusion across industry

Posted on 4/1/25 at 9:45 pm to
Posted by Neutral Underground
Member since Mar 2024
3378 posts
Posted on 4/1/25 at 9:45 pm to
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Chaos and Confusion


Maybe that was the point. On top of tariffs being used as a negotiating tool to get America better terms its also being used to bring down inflation. So yeah the economy is going to slow down for a little bit, but that is the objective.
Posted by boosiebadazz
Member since Feb 2008
85660 posts
Posted on 4/1/25 at 9:47 pm to
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its also being used to bring down inflation. So yeah the economy is going to slow down for a little bit, but that is the objective.


slurp slurp slurp
Posted by jrodLSUke
Premium
Member since Jan 2011
26274 posts
Posted on 4/1/25 at 9:56 pm to
There’s no way to ease into tariffs when using them as a trade negotiation. That would defeat the entire point.
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
128797 posts
Posted on 4/1/25 at 9:56 pm to
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And it's fricking a lot of industries.


Lol. No.
Posted by Jack Carter
Member since Sep 2018
12200 posts
Posted on 4/1/25 at 9:56 pm to
Toughen up buttercup
Posted by RobbBobb
Member since Feb 2007
34286 posts
Posted on 4/1/25 at 9:58 pm to
Thats not a good look from your leadership

Freshen up that resume. You might need to use it
Posted by Hodag
Northwoods
Member since Sep 2024
1083 posts
Posted on 4/1/25 at 10:00 pm to
I guarantee you they had no problem dealing with uncertainty during COVID, or right after COVID, or when the brain dead daughter fricking retard was elected and printed $20 trillion for pet projects nobody asked for (aka money laundering) sending inflation up 50% over 5 years. And remember all those "supply chain issues"

Tell your colleagues to quit being pussies.

People who cry about tariffs and the stock market in the first 100 days are literally too fricking stupid to talk to.
Posted by Hodag
Northwoods
Member since Sep 2024
1083 posts
Posted on 4/1/25 at 10:01 pm to
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boosiebadazz


Exhibit A

Posted by Neutral Underground
Member since Mar 2024
3378 posts
Posted on 4/1/25 at 10:02 pm to
It's better than anything then Biden proposed. Which was The New Green Deal(exactly what was built?) and hiring thousands of new government employees in order to manipulate job growth numbers. I don't want to listen to people who criticize but have no actual real world solutions. Don't you have a Tesla to go burn or something?
Posted by boosiebadazz
Member since Feb 2008
85660 posts
Posted on 4/1/25 at 10:03 pm to
Biden and Trump both being bad is not mutually exclusive. They can both be bad in their own way. We’d all be better to recognize that.
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
128797 posts
Posted on 4/1/25 at 10:06 pm to
Both sides!!!


Attaboy.
Posted by Klark Kent
Houston via BR
Member since Jan 2008
74858 posts
Posted on 4/1/25 at 10:11 pm to
and if you didn’t have a raging case of TDS, maybe someone would take your word for that
This post was edited on 4/1/25 at 10:12 pm
Posted by boosiebadazz
Member since Feb 2008
85660 posts
Posted on 4/1/25 at 10:13 pm to
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maybe someone would take your word for that



Luke the guy who said tariffs are really a tool to raise prices to … lower inflation??
Posted by Klark Kent
Houston via BR
Member since Jan 2008
74858 posts
Posted on 4/1/25 at 10:16 pm to
i don’t know who Luke is. and i never said that or anything like that.
Posted by Robcrzy
Mandeville
Member since Nov 2007
1332 posts
Posted on 4/1/25 at 10:21 pm to
I have been saying this and all the down voters are just fing stupid it’s a good idea and policy handled like a clusterfrick it’s all over the place and even all the financial experts agree it needed to be handled differently. he should have had one big beautiful strong detailed trade policy and had a press conference and announced it. Instead it’s mass confusion.
Posted by IvoryBillMatt
Member since Mar 2020
10132 posts
Posted on 4/1/25 at 10:21 pm to
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In the United States, the legal authority to impose tariffs, such as those planned for President Donald Trump’s “Liberation Day” announcement on April 2, 2025, is a shared power between Congress and the President, with the latter wielding significant delegated authority under specific statutes. 


Thanks for all that, but it comes down to two avenues. First, under IEEPA, there has to be an actual national emergency (honestly, not applicable). Second, under 301, doesn't there have to be a 30 day period for public comments ?
Posted by Tigerdew
The Garden District of Da' Parish
Member since Dec 2003
15414 posts
Posted on 4/1/25 at 11:02 pm to
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I have been saying this and all the down voters are just fing stupid it’s a good idea and policy handled like a clusterfrick it’s all over the place and even all the financial experts agree it needed to be handled differently. he should have had one big beautiful strong detailed trade policy and had a press conference and announced it. Instead it’s mass confusion.


1. Throw a fricking period or comma in there every now and then. Sheesh.

2. The last time Trump listened to “experts” an entire country shutdown for a year and a half. These financial experts have never run a lemonade stand let alone the greatest economy on the globe.


Posted by BuckyCheese
Member since Jan 2015
57778 posts
Posted on 4/1/25 at 11:15 pm to
All those claiming they have plenty of warning, explain how a business is supposed to plan and adjust their supply chain when the tariff may be 20% or it may be adjustable?

Or is Doocy fake news now?

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This post was edited on 4/1/25 at 11:16 pm
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
128797 posts
Posted on 4/1/25 at 11:20 pm to
I share your concern.

My concern is more concerning than yours.
Posted by olemc999
At a blackjack table
Member since Oct 2010
15297 posts
Posted on 4/1/25 at 11:30 pm to
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Thanks for all that, but it comes down to two avenues. First, under IEEPA, there has to be an actual national emergency (honestly, not applicable).


The International Emergency Economic Powers Act (IEEPA) does require the President to declare a national emergency to unlock its powers, like imposing tariffs or regulating commerce. You’re spot-on to question its fit here (“honestly, not applicable”)—it’s hard to see a clear “emergency” in a planned tariff rollout. That said, the bar for what counts as an emergency is pretty low. Presidents have historically used IEEPA for everything from sanctions to trade spats, often claiming broad threats like economic instability or foreign exploitation. Trump could argue that ongoing trade imbalances or unfair practices (say, from China or Canada) pose an “unusual and extraordinary threat” to U.S. security. It’s a stretch, sure, and courts or Congress might push back, but it’s not outside the realm of past precedent. For a rapid move like “Liberation Day” on April 2, 2025, IEEPA could be the administration’s go-to for immediate action.


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Second, under 301, doesn't there have to be a 30 day period for public comments ?


Typically, Section 301 involves an investigation with public input, hearings, and a process that can take months. But there’s no hard-and-fast 30-day rule; the timeline’s flexible. In urgent cases, the USTR can speed things up or lean on existing investigations (like those into China’s trade practices) to justify quick tariffs without starting from scratch. If Trump’s team wants “immediate” impact, they might frame these tariffs as retaliatory under prior Section 301 findings, dodging lengthy delays.
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