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The Supreme Court is about to decide four huge cases defining Trump’s power
Posted on 6/22/26 at 2:27 pm
Posted on 6/22/26 at 2:27 pm
All in the next two weeks. Birthright citizenship is the most explosive, IMHO. It should have been ruled on decades ago.
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Ever since President Trump returned to office last January, he and the Supreme Court have been locked in an uneasy tango. Now, the tempo is about to quicken.
Over the next two weeks, the court will race to clear its docket before the justices take their annual summer break. Four remaining cases involve Trump’s aggressive efforts to expand his own power. In at least a couple of them, the justices seem inclined to rein him in. What the court says—and how it says it—will help define its relationship with a pugnacious president for the remainder of his time in office.
The justices are weighing whether Trump can (1) redefine birthright citizenship, (2) fire a governor of the Federal Reserve, (3) consolidate power over independent agencies and (4) strip protections from hundreds of thousands of immigrants. Though the four cases turn on different legal issues, together they will send a strong signal about how far the court’s conservative majority is willing to let Trump go, legal experts say.
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Posted on 6/22/26 at 2:29 pm to uggabugga
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Though the four cases turn on different legal issues, together they will send a strong signal about how far the court’s conservative majority is willing to let Trump go, legal experts say.
I anticipate lots of punting and/or narrowly tailored rulings, unfortunately.
Posted on 6/22/26 at 2:30 pm to uggabugga
I would be shocked if birthright citizenship went his way. The way people have talked about that it may go 9-0 or 8-1 against him. I would love to be wrong though
Posted on 6/22/26 at 2:31 pm to uggabugga
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Birthright citizenship is the most explosive, IMHO. It should have been ruled on decades ago.
To be fair, decades ago we didnt have the problem we do today. (or the last 6-7 years.
Posted on 6/22/26 at 2:33 pm to Henry Jones Jr
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I would be shocked if birthright citizenship went his way. The way people have talked about that it may go 9-0 or 8-1 against him. I would love to be wrong though
I would love to be similarly shocked. You'd think that something as clearcut as ruling against rich chinese taking 'birth vacations' so their spawn would have all the rights of American citizenship would be a no-brainer.
Posted on 6/22/26 at 2:33 pm to Henry Jones Jr
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would be shocked if birthright citizenship went his way. The way people have talked about that it may go 9-0 or 8-1
What people?
Posted on 6/22/26 at 2:34 pm to uggabugga
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The justices are weighing whether Trump can (1) redefine birthright citizenship, (2) fire a governor of the Federal Reserve, (3) consolidate power over independent agencies and (4) strip protections from hundreds of thousands of immigrants.
my predictions:
1. He can’t
2. He can “for cause” and the ruling will mostly be about whether this firing counts as “for cause”
3. Yes
4. Probably yes.
Posted on 6/22/26 at 2:34 pm to Meauxjeaux
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To be fair, decades ago we didnt have the problem we do today. (or the last 6-7 years.
Better to nip it in the bud before it got absolutely awful than ignore it for decades.
Posted on 6/22/26 at 2:34 pm to This GUN for HIRE
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What people?
SFP
Posted on 6/22/26 at 2:35 pm to uggabugga
One thought is that since it's taking them sooooo long to release these opinions, is that the minority is dragging their feet with the dissents. This may be a good sign.
Or maybe just wishful thinking.
Or maybe just wishful thinking.
Posted on 6/22/26 at 2:37 pm to Henry Jones Jr
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I would be shocked if birthright citizenship went his way. The way people have talked about that it may go 9-0 or 8-1 against him. I would love to be wrong though
and if they do, Trump should IMMEDIATELY
1) announce that no woman that is pregnant will be given a visa or allowed into the country
2) any pregnant illegal will be immediately deported to their home country upon capture - with their claims to be adjudicated there
3) any current visa to a female will be terminated in 7 days unless they can prove they are not pregnant
Posted on 6/22/26 at 2:39 pm to SammyTiger
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my predictions:
1. He can’t
2. He can “for cause” and the ruling will mostly be about whether this firing counts as “for cause”
3. Yes
4. Probably yes.
This is likely how it will come down.
Posted on 6/22/26 at 2:39 pm to Indefatigable
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I anticipate lots of punting and/or narrowly tailored rulings, unfortunately.
And much barely coherent writings from the unqualified black lady.
Posted on 6/22/26 at 2:41 pm to udtiger
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and if they do, Trump should IMMEDIATELY
1) announce that no woman that is pregnant will be given a visa or allowed into the country
2) any pregnant illegal will be immediately deported to their home country upon capture - with their claims to be adjudicated there
3) any current visa to a female will be terminated in 7 days unless they can prove they are not pregnant
And any non-citizen that gives birth in the United States is immediately deported and is banned from entering the United States in the future.
Posted on 6/22/26 at 2:42 pm to SammyTiger
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my predictions:
1. He can’t
2. He can “for cause” and the ruling will mostly be about whether this firing counts as “for cause”
3. Yes
4. Probably yes.
I agree. But would add, I think there is a small chance on 1. that you have a 9-0 or 8-1 majority say that for people who come here with the intent to live/reside permanently and have a child then the child is a citizen. For those on visas, you might get a dissent of 3 or 4, with outside chance at a majority, say those here on a visa (temporary) cannot give birth and have a child that becomes a citizen.
Based largely on the SCOTUS case dealing with the Chinese immigrant who was born to parents with permanent domiciles.
obviously, I am just guessing.
Posted on 6/22/26 at 2:42 pm to Snipe
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And much barely coherent writings from the unqualified black lady.
If she’s writing the opinion on any of those topics…..this board will implode at a nuclear level because that means it was probably unanimous against the administration.
Posted on 6/22/26 at 2:44 pm to udtiger
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and if they do, Trump should IMMEDIATELY 1) announce that no woman that is pregnant will be given a visa or allowed into the country 2) any pregnant illegal will be immediately deported to their home country upon capture - with their claims to be adjudicated there 3) any current visa to a female will be terminated in 7 days unless they can prove they are not pregnant
Yea, SCOTUS is never going to sanction any of that either
Posted on 6/22/26 at 2:45 pm to uggabugga
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The Supreme Court is about to decide four huge cases defining Trump’s power.
No they aren’t.
Posted on 6/22/26 at 2:47 pm to udtiger
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1) announce that no woman that is pregnant will be given a visa or allowed into the country
I would already do that.
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2) any pregnant illegal will be immediately deported to their home country upon capture - with their claims to be adjudicated there
I would already do that.
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3) any current visa to a female will be terminated in 7 days unless they can prove they are not pregnant
I would already do that.
Posted on 6/22/26 at 2:47 pm to Indefatigable
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and if they do, Trump should IMMEDIATELY 1) announce that no woman that is pregnant will be given a visa or allowed into the country 2) any pregnant illegal will be immediately deported to their home country upon capture - with their claims to be adjudicated there 3) any current visa to a female will be terminated in 7 days unless they can prove they are not pregnant
Yea, SCOTUS is never going to sanction any of that either
That's when Trump channels Andy Jackson and ignores them.
If their conclusion is that the borders of this nation are meaningless and citizenship is purely a function of where some illegal shits their spawn out, he would have an obligation to ignore them.
ETA: when he makes the announcement, he should pre-emptively state that his Administration will not recognize any order from any court regarding the enforceabilty of these rules except from the SCOTUS and only after full briefing on the merits and oral argument.
This post was edited on 6/22/26 at 2:51 pm
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