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re: The strategy of indicting Trump has made Trump stronger instead of dropping out...
Posted on 8/29/23 at 2:28 pm to Vacherie Saint
Posted on 8/29/23 at 2:28 pm to Vacherie Saint
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Mail in votes are a massive turn out driver for democrats. You don't actually believe Trump loses without mail ins? LOL
This is like talking to Hodor. Or a three year old.
OF COURSE THE MAIL IN BALLOTS ARE A HUGE PART OF IT. But as long as they are legal, they count as votes. So yes, mail-in turnout is still turnout. It allows Democrats who only pay attention to politics so that they can say "I hate Trump" on social media to vote when they otherwise wouldn't. But guess what? That vote counts as much as yours or mine does.
Now, if you can list for me the states that allowed mail-in voting in 2020 that are not doing so in 2024, then that could change the calculus. If purple states that were turned left in 2020 because of the ease of mail-in ballots for apathetic Dem voters that are not allowing those mail-ins in 2024, then sure. Maybe the landscape shifts. But I am not aware of any.
This post was edited on 8/29/23 at 2:30 pm
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Posted on 8/29/23 at 2:30 pm to Indefatigable
let it go dude. you cant have it both ways. If there are no undecided voters left, and Trump is murdering Ron in every poll by huge margins - even in Florida, he's clearly the best nominee for the party. Are the Ron people going to swallow their pride and do what's right?
And frankly, Ron has a lot of soul searching to do as well, as his campaign has been arse... like Romney 2.0 arse.
And frankly, Ron has a lot of soul searching to do as well, as his campaign has been arse... like Romney 2.0 arse.
Posted on 8/29/23 at 2:31 pm to Vacherie Saint
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f there are no undecided voters left, and Trump is murdering Ron in every poll by huge margins - even in Florida, he's clearly the best nominee for the party. Are the Ron people going to swallow their pride and do what's right?
What?
This post has no bearing on anything I've said in this thread.
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you cant have it both ways
No clue what you mean. What two ways am I trying to have it?
I don't think Desantis can win either.
Posted on 8/29/23 at 2:33 pm to momentoftruth87
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There’s a majority of the country who couldn’t tell you who the vp is
Politically ignorant folks in the country are the worst.
I mean there are way too many people that believe senators have districts. Can you believe that dumb shite?
Posted on 8/29/23 at 2:33 pm to Indefatigable
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urnout will not be lower in 2024 than it was in 2020
If mail in voting is not allowed, it absolutely will be lower.
If mail in voting is allowed, turnout will be the same if not more.
Posted on 8/29/23 at 2:33 pm to Jax-Tiger
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Did the Democrats really think this thing through?
Yeah
They want Trump to win the republican nomination
Posted on 8/29/23 at 2:34 pm to Indefatigable
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mail-in turnout is still turnout
no. it isnt.
a canvasser showing up at a retirement home or a housing project with a stack of ballots isnt "turn out". those people arent motivated voters. do the votes count? sure. is it fair to say these people were motivated voters interested in ousting Trump? No.
Posted on 8/29/23 at 2:34 pm to bbvdd
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If mail in voting is not allowed, it absolutely will be lower.
There is virtually zero possible sequence of events where there will not be mail-in voting in 2024.
Posted on 8/29/23 at 2:35 pm to Vacherie Saint
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no. it isnt.
Yes. It literally is. They are recorded and counted like all other votes.
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s it fair to say these people were motivated voters interested in ousting Trump?
No one gives a frick about "fair".
This post was edited on 8/29/23 at 2:36 pm
Posted on 8/29/23 at 2:35 pm to Indefatigable
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I don't think Desantis can win either.
Then STFU with all of your blaming and shite talking about Trump.
Posted on 8/29/23 at 2:37 pm to Indefatigable
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Yes. It literally is. They are recorded like all other votes.
cool. than you should easily be able to prove that those millions upon millions of mail in votes were votes against Trump since its your assertion that Trump is a "turnout machine" for democrats who didnt technically turnout on election day at all. Hit us up with a link.
Posted on 8/29/23 at 2:39 pm to Vacherie Saint
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than you should easily be able to prove that those millions upon millions of mail in votes were votes against Trump since its your assertion that Trump is a "turnout machine" for democrats who didnt technically turnout on election day at all. Hit us up with a link.
You seem to be under the incredibly stupid presumption that anything you just said impacts my point
The. Votes. Were. Counted.
They will be counted this time too. The Democrat harvesting efforts are not going away unless and until Republicans gain positions where they can do something about them.
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"turnout machine" for democrats who didnt technically turnout on election day at all.
No one anywhere has ever restricted "voter turnout" to only in-person election day voters. Very bizarre thing to fixate on.
This post was edited on 8/29/23 at 2:43 pm
Posted on 8/29/23 at 2:43 pm to Indefatigable
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The. Votes. Were. Counted.
we know. but you said they voted to get rid of Trump. prove it.
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They will be counted this time too. The Democrat harvesting efforts are not going away unless and until Republicans gain positions where they can do something about them.
Both Ron and Don have a plan to harvest votes
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No one anywhere has ever restricted "voter turnout" to only in-person election day voters. Very bizarre thing to fixate on.
Then you should probably stop ignorantly claiming that dem mail in and drop box voters were motivated by their seething hate for Trump, and not the free 2pc dark meat meal they got from the nice canvasser lady that stopped by the apartment complex.
This post was edited on 8/29/23 at 2:48 pm
Posted on 8/29/23 at 2:47 pm to Jax-Tiger
It's almost as if the Democrats WANT Trump to be the nominee.
4D chess or something.
4D chess or something.
Posted on 8/29/23 at 2:49 pm to Vacherie Saint
You're hopeless. The GOP will have to lose another POTUS election and underperform in another congressional election just so that people like you can learn that Donald Trump is not popular in the areas/demographics that the GOP must win to have national electoral success.
Yes, 2016 was lightning in a bottle.
Yes, 2016 was lightning in a bottle.
Posted on 8/29/23 at 2:51 pm to Indefatigable
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But as long as they are legal, they count as votes
This. The dems have figured out that making it easier to vote - making it easier to exercise democracy - is an advantage to them.
The dems have ALWAYS been better at "playing poitics" than the right is.
A system of mail in votes is not, by itself, illegal or proof of illegal votes. That is a fact that the Trumpers just can't seem to understand.
Posted on 8/29/23 at 2:59 pm to Indefatigable
I've asked you several times to provide some evidence to your assertion that 10's of millions of covid "vote from yo couch" Biden "supporters" were motivated by ousting Trump. I'm still waiting. Don't think that's an unreasonable request.
Were voters in Pennsylvania similarly blinded in their hate for Dr. Oz that they waited impatiently on their walmart futons for the canvasser lady to arrive with their live-saving Fetterman ballot?
Were voters in Pennsylvania similarly blinded in their hate for Dr. Oz that they waited impatiently on their walmart futons for the canvasser lady to arrive with their live-saving Fetterman ballot?
Posted on 8/29/23 at 3:01 pm to Jax-Tiger
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Did the Democrats really think this thing through?
What if they did is a terrifying thought.. orchestrate all of this to get him to win primary as part of a plan… they’re either evil geniuses or fricktards .. I hope it’s the latter
Posted on 8/29/23 at 3:03 pm to Espritdescorps
Its remarkable what they are doing to Trump as they simultaneously slam Putin for jailing political opponents, gaming elections, and engaging in corruption. More people see this for what it is than many think. Will it be enough to win in 24? We'll see.
Posted on 8/29/23 at 3:04 pm to Jax-Tiger
Great news for Biden.
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