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re: The Secret Meeting that Changed Rap Music and Destroyed a Generation

Posted on 6/10/26 at 10:04 am to
Posted by rebeloke
Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 6/10/26 at 10:04 am to
Seems awfully clean. The man has a meeting and informs his influencers and gives them orders to go out and spread chaos and confusion amongst the masses, encouraging criminal behavior. Why because the man owns the prisons and the government, the other man will be able to pay for every person to have in there? You can see the economics of this.

I’m holding my hand up, sir. Why would the government want someone to proliferate violence for the simple purpose of giving them money to house criminals?

Well, I’m glad you asked that. You see we had enough of those stiffs brought into the profitability and we influenced enough of those congressionals types to where we had the votes.

It’s all about the dollar show me the money
Posted by captainFid
Never apologize to barbarism
Member since Dec 2014
10845 posts
Posted on 6/10/26 at 10:04 am to
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Summary?


You don't need one...

The story shared is widely considered an urban legend / conspiracy theory.

There is no verified evidence that such a 1991 meeting happened or that the music industry coordinated with private prisons in that way. However, the story feels believable to some people because it loosely connects to real historical issues.

ETA - I found this started with anonymous 'letter' or email in 2012.
This post was edited on 6/10/26 at 10:24 am
Posted by ThoUpOrange
Member since Feb 2014
206 posts
Posted on 6/10/26 at 10:06 am to
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Immediately, silence came over the room. You could have heard a pin drop. I remember looking around to make sure I wasn't dreaming and saw half of the people with dropped jaws. My daze was interrupted when someone shouted, “Is this a f****** joke?” At this point things became chaotic. Two of the men who were part of the “unfamiliar” group grabbed the man who shouted out and attempted to remove him from the house. A few of us, myself included, tried to intervene. One of them pulled out a gun and we all backed off. They separated us from the crowd and all four of us were escorted outside.


If a story has elements that sound like they were written by a wannabe screenwriter, you know it's fake.
Posted by Champagne
Sabine Free State.
Member since Oct 2007
55515 posts
Posted on 6/10/26 at 10:07 am to
Producing "Rap" seems to me would cost less money than paying expensive virtuoso musicians in bands. If the Industry can make the same or more money by promoting a product that costs less to publish, then the decision to move away from Hair Bands towards Rap is easy.
Posted by LegendInMyMind
Member since Apr 2019
75735 posts
Posted on 6/10/26 at 10:11 am to
Yeah, because the preceding two decades (1970s and 80s) just really didn't have enough crime to fill prisons......
Posted by CitizenK
BR
Member since Aug 2019
16099 posts
Posted on 6/10/26 at 10:15 am to
You left out to C and spelled the word as R-A-P
Posted by Zgeo
Baja Oklahoma
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Posted on 6/10/26 at 10:15 am to
BS meter pegged out…
Posted by WeeWee
Member since Aug 2012
45691 posts
Posted on 6/10/26 at 10:16 am to
Can I get a cliff notes version please. I ain't got time to read a novel on the crapper this morning.
Posted by Green Chili Tiger
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Posted on 6/10/26 at 10:17 am to
Posted by stout
Porte du Lafitte
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Posted on 6/10/26 at 10:18 am to
bullshite

Did they also have a meeting to make moves like Boyz ' N the Hood or Menace II Society?
Posted by Ailsa
Member since May 2020
9556 posts
Posted on 6/10/26 at 10:20 am to
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Yeah, because the preceding two decades (1970s and 80s) just really didn't have enough crime to fill prisons......


Evidently not enough for the private for-profit prison complex companies. Were they also racist...targeting the black youth?
This post was edited on 6/10/26 at 10:24 am
Posted by AlxTgr
Kyre Banorg
Member since Oct 2003
87612 posts
Posted on 6/10/26 at 10:21 am to
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bullshite
I think so too, but even some "insiders" believe it. Quote attributed to Ice Cube on the Bill Maher show:
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I don't know their names Bill, but if you follow the money, you go high enough, you start to see... Okay, let’s take Rap music. The same people who own the labels own the prisons." Ice Cube said, adding later that there are a "lot of dots to connect" but he was simply giving a "broad example of how people at the top can manipulate what's going on with the people who are bickering and fighting."
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 6/10/26 at 10:22 am to
Slop
Posted by CR4090
Member since Apr 2023
9893 posts
Posted on 6/10/26 at 10:24 am to
Dolores Tucker was right about rap music. Yet you see how she was treated by her 'people'.
This post was edited on 6/10/26 at 10:26 am
Posted by Zach
Gizmonic Institute
Member since May 2005
117725 posts
Posted on 6/10/26 at 10:26 am to
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he was at a Super Secret Meeting of "decision makers" in the music industry in 1991

This sounds like one of the scenes in Forest Gump.
Posted by bayou2
New Orleans, LA
Member since Feb 2007
3923 posts
Posted on 6/10/26 at 10:26 am to


... ssssooo, that is what that New Orleans District Attorney was up to between 1974 and 2003 ...

Wanted to make New Orleans the birthplace of rap .... hahahahah

LINK

... and not only that , have some of the guys teach his son how to play the piano ...


Posted by Sam Quint
Member since Sep 2022
9059 posts
Posted on 6/10/26 at 10:26 am to
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think so too, but even some "insiders" believe it. Quote attributed to Ice Cube on the Bill Maher show:

people like Ice Cube hold a lot of the blame for the culture, so it benefits them (and probabyl alleiviates a degree of guilty conscience) to redirect blame. it cant be that the culture itself is corrupt and broken, it was the eeeeevil corporate (white) men who orchestrated this all.
Posted by riccoar
Arkansas
Member since Mar 2006
5228 posts
Posted on 6/10/26 at 10:26 am to
That reads like a made-up story from a white liberal on Reddit eaten up with white guilt.

Posted by Ailsa
Member since May 2020
9556 posts
Posted on 6/10/26 at 10:27 am to
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The same people who own the labels own the prisons." Ice Cube said, adding later that there are a "lot of dots to connect" but he was simply giving a "broad example of how people at the top can manipulate what's going on with the people who are bickering and fighting."


quote:

Who Owns Private Prison Stock?
Loaded on JULY 31, 2015 by Alex Friedmann published in Prison Legal News August, 2015, page 46
Filed under: Private Prisons, Corrections Corporation of America/CoreCivic, GEO Group/Wackenhut. Location: United States of America.

by Alex Friedmann

The nation’s two largest for-profit prison companies, Tennessee-based Corrections Corporation of America (CCA) and Florida-based GEO Group (GEO), are publicly traded on the New York Stock Exchange. Other private prison firms, including Management & Training Corporation (MTC), Community Education Centers (CEC), LaSalle Southwest Corrections and Emerald Correctional Management, are privately-held and thus do not have public stock.

As of July 2015, CCA had issued approximately 117 million shares of stock with a market cap of $4.05 billion, while GEO had issued around 75 million shares with a market cap of $2.76 billion. So who owns the vast majority of stock in these two companies? The answer is not everyday people or individual investors, but rather other corporations – banks, mutual fund management companies and private equity firms – as well as public employee retirement systems.

In fact, around 92.4% of CCA’s stock was owned by 300 institutional investors while 91.1% of GEO Group stock was owned by 272 institutional investors at the end of July 2015. In some cases, the same institutional investors held stock in both companies.

The largest owner of CCA stock was Vanguard Group, Inc., with 16.79 million shares valued at $578.9 million, followed by Vanguard’s Specialized-REIT Index Fund, a mutual fund, with 8.8 million shares. Other top institutional investors included Managed Account Advisors with 6.4 million shares, London Co. of Virginia with 6.13 million shares and Epoch Investment Partners, Inc. with just over 6 million shares.


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President Obama holds all of his wealth in just two Vanguard funds, Vanguard 500 Index Fund where he has 3 accounts and the Vanguard FTSE Social Index Fund where he holds another 3 accounts

"The largest owner of CCA stock was Vanguard Group, Inc., with 16.79 million shares valued at $578.9 million, followed by Vanguard’s Specialized-REIT Index Fund, a mutual fund, with 8.8 million shares."

https://www.prisonlegalnews.org/news/2015/jul/31/who-owns-private-prison-stock/
Posted by Sams Crow
Member since Apr 2026
243 posts
Posted on 6/10/26 at 10:27 am to
Misspelled.
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