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re: The Right is handcuffed by nostalgic and incorrect beliefs of how the Constitution works

Posted on 5/9/23 at 9:26 pm to
Posted by burger bearcat
Member since Oct 2020
10501 posts
Posted on 5/9/23 at 9:26 pm to
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And we have a lot of fricking guns.


They may be outnumbered in some ways, but organization and money will crush raw numbers and manpower all day long. They have all the money, and all the organizations.
This post was edited on 5/9/23 at 9:27 pm
Posted by teke184
Zachary, LA
Member since Jan 2007
104078 posts
Posted on 5/9/23 at 9:29 pm to
How well did that work in Iraq?

If you don’t know where the danger is coming from, it’s pretty fricking hard to operate.


The regular soldiers in Iraq got their asses kicked but the guerillas were very effective in harassing our guys.
Posted by BrainKellyRespecter
Member since May 2023
238 posts
Posted on 5/9/23 at 9:32 pm to
Yes
Posted by tigerfoot
Alexandria
Member since Sep 2006
61447 posts
Posted on 5/9/23 at 9:32 pm to
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The Constitution and our country is not some mystical thing. It's just words, paper, and ink. There are a number of country's throughout the world who adopted our exact form of government and Constitution, including Venezuala, Mexico, Argentina, Liberia, Canada... so how are these countries looking at present?
doesn’t this point if yours that it is a functional document and should be treated as such. The countries you listed never followed it
Posted by burger bearcat
Member since Oct 2020
10501 posts
Posted on 5/9/23 at 9:35 pm to
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How well did that work in Iraq?


Are we talking about the Iraqi military that was toppled in 2 or 3 weeks?

Yes. We struggled taking out the terrorist groups, but part of the problem is there was never a clear, defined mission and goal, or if there was one it was completely unrealistic. But don't want to get off topic on that.
This post was edited on 5/9/23 at 9:37 pm
Posted by Hooligan's Ghost
Member since Jul 2013
5673 posts
Posted on 5/9/23 at 9:38 pm to
the pen is not mightier than the sword?
Posted by Riverside
Member since Jul 2022
10812 posts
Posted on 5/9/23 at 9:41 pm to
I feel like Not Sure in Idiocracy. Like I’ve awakened in some dystopian version of America where everyone has the IQ of a rock.

Posted by burger bearcat
Member since Oct 2020
10501 posts
Posted on 5/9/23 at 9:42 pm to
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doesn’t this point if yours that it is a functional document and should be treated as such. The countries you listed never followed it


And neither does ours anymore. It is simply a guideline, and only works as Jon Adams said, for a moral and religious people. He is absolutely right.

The countries in question, were not interested maintaining the Constitution and their corrupt nature found the loopholes to exploit it and end their "social compacts" with the people. Often times the people are manipulated into giving removing the restraints placed on the government, and obliging to let the government place the restraints on the people.
Posted by Dontrelle Willetts
Member since May 2023
18 posts
Posted on 5/9/23 at 9:43 pm to
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And neither does ours anymore

It hasn't since Marbury vs Madison dude.
Posted by TGFN57
Telluride
Member since Jan 2010
6975 posts
Posted on 5/9/23 at 9:45 pm to
And you're already in your bunker. Just remember not to play with your pop guns while your mom and her friends are having mohitos upstairs. She's liable to go downstairs and bitch slap you.
Posted by junkfunky
Member since Jan 2011
36332 posts
Posted on 5/9/23 at 9:49 pm to
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works


ffs
Posted by lsufan9193969700
Madisonville
Member since Sep 2003
55912 posts
Posted on 5/9/23 at 9:51 pm to
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In fact, I would argue that ironically the left has a much deeper understanding of the nature of the Constitution than the right.


I'd argue that you're an idiot.
Posted by burger bearcat
Member since Oct 2020
10501 posts
Posted on 5/9/23 at 9:56 pm to
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I'd argue that you're an idiot.


OK, fair enough.

But answer this. If the right has more prowess on this subject, how has the left managed to take over every single institution in this country. How are they winning all over the battlefield.

But I really should clarify. When I am saying "left", I am not referring to the masses of useful window licking freeloaders who they use for power, I was referring to the Marc Elias types who know how to manipulate the legal system and use every loophole possible to do things like reshape all of our elections without a single legislative vote.
This post was edited on 5/9/23 at 9:59 pm
Posted by boosiebadazz
Member since Feb 2008
85685 posts
Posted on 5/9/23 at 9:58 pm to
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If the right has more prowess on this subject, how has the left managed to take over every single institution in this country. How are they winning all over the battlefield.


Because society has liberalized and moved leftward, relatively speaking, since the Magna Carta.
Posted by Robin Masters
Birmingham
Member since Jul 2010
35932 posts
Posted on 5/9/23 at 10:36 pm to
It’s why the only thing that matters is the 2A. Without it everything falls apart.
Posted by Stonehog
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Member since Aug 2011
34153 posts
Posted on 5/9/23 at 10:39 pm to
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Power grows out the barrel of a gun.

And we have a lot of fricking guns.


No one is afraid of you because if you still haven’t taken up arms while democrats are actively trying to cut off your son’s dick, then you aren’t ever going to take up arms. All hat no cattle.

Bunch of fricking wannabe larpers who talk about the tree of liberty being refreshed with blood but they get up and go to work everyday and go grocery shopping. Shut the frick up.
Posted by NPComb
Member since Jan 2019
28501 posts
Posted on 5/9/23 at 10:47 pm to
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Way better than America if you hear you guys tell it


You are somewhat correct in a couple areas but mostly wrong. A majority of the destruction and devaluation of America are both attributed to liberal policies.
Posted by imjustafatkid
Alabama
Member since Dec 2011
65864 posts
Posted on 5/9/23 at 10:54 pm to
The greatest thing this country has going for it is the constitution. If the political Right starts treating it like a "living document," we're all screwed and this country is doomed.
Posted by Kingshakabooboo
Member since Nov 2012
1909 posts
Posted on 5/9/23 at 11:01 pm to
I COMPLETELY DISAGREE WITH YOUR ENTIRE PREMISE.

The constitution outlines the most perfect form
of government ever created by man. I personally think our forefathers had divine help and inspiration while creating it. It lead to the greatest country ever on planet Earth and created more personal freedoms and raised more people out of poverty than any other before or since.

The problem today is that it is no longer followed and we have traded individual states rights for a bloated federal government.
Posted by redandright
Member since Jun 2011
9794 posts
Posted on 5/9/23 at 11:04 pm to
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how has the left managed to take over every single institution in this country. How are they winning all over the battlefield.


How about we quit discouraging kids from going to college? Not saying that college is for everyone, but the Right has surrendered those institutions to the Left by not being involved in them.

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