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re: The Right is finally winning the culture war. Yes or no? Does it matter?

Posted on 7/18/24 at 11:19 am to
Posted by stout
Porte du Lafitte
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Posted on 7/18/24 at 11:19 am to
Read that wrong. My B
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Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 7/18/24 at 11:20 am to
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waiting patiently to get their foot in the door and turn the country into some sort of Evangelical theocracy.

That's not the argument.

Again, we are talking about the GOP being "cool" and winning the cultural war.

There's a huge gap between that and "Evangelical theocracy", the same as there's a huge gap in how the Left has won the cultural war and trannies running everything.

Have we forgotten Lindsey Graham's stupidity in 2022 already?

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How many people are even following this Walsh guy?

2.8M on twitter/X alone
Posted by Turbeauxdog
Member since Aug 2004
24073 posts
Posted on 7/18/24 at 11:20 am to
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Did you miss post-911 America? That got Bush 2 terms. John "cover the naked statues" Ashcroft was his fricking AG Now, the cultural shift will end up net-positive for the left over time. That's been the pattern for all of civilized human history.


No. I remember compassionate conservative (ie say you are conservative maybe even Christian but don't bring any of that into policy) being his platform.

Perhaps you have a myriad of policies enacted during bush's term that demonstrates this massive far right pendulum swing that had to be corrected and had nothing to do with a botched war and economic collapse that actually cost us that pos Obama.
Posted by TigerIron
Member since Feb 2021
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Posted on 7/18/24 at 11:21 am to
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The convention had a prayer session for Wageru, a porn star spoke, there was long praise of immigration, and we had union representatives speaking.

This could have been a Democratic convention ten years ago.


Trump and TDS has totally changed the Republican party, really both parties. Whether it's mostly for the better or the worse is up for debate I guess, but the Dole/McCain/Romney/Bush party didn't do that much to help ordinary Americans, and seemed very content to less mass immigration and forever wars roll along with no speedbumps.
Posted by BlueFalcon
Aberdeen Scotland
Member since Dec 2011
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Posted on 7/18/24 at 11:22 am to
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The Right is finally winning the culture war. Yes or no? Does it matter?


I'd say we're finally fighting back, not winning

The Culture War is the long game, it is vital to fight it and win it

Ignoring it was stupid
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
464968 posts
Posted on 7/18/24 at 11:22 am to
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Well before you give someone that platform you should be confident enough to trust her sincerity.






Posted by navy
Parts Unknown, LA
Member since Sep 2010
31257 posts
Posted on 7/18/24 at 11:22 am to
Everything is fine until you start putting mega douche Union blowhards and AIPAC shills front and center.

Posted by Vacherie Saint
Member since Aug 2015
45945 posts
Posted on 7/18/24 at 11:22 am to
HANDS: [WRINGING] NOT WRINGING
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
464968 posts
Posted on 7/18/24 at 11:23 am to
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HANDS: [WRINGING] NOT WRINGING

What a weird response to facts
Posted by Turbeauxdog
Member since Aug 2004
24073 posts
Posted on 7/18/24 at 11:26 am to
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Have we forgotten Lindsey Graham's stupidity in 2022 already?


You think he's evangelical or has to pander to evangelicals with abortion bans? (after roe v wade got overturned and South Carolina was already implementing their own policy)
Posted by Bronson2017
Birmingham
Member since Feb 2019
2196 posts
Posted on 7/18/24 at 11:26 am to
I we are we are either too late or made it just in time by the skin of our teeth.
Posted by Turbeauxdog
Member since Aug 2004
24073 posts
Posted on 7/18/24 at 11:26 am to
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What a weird response to facts


Only in your bubble of delusion bud.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
464968 posts
Posted on 7/18/24 at 11:28 am to
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You think he's evangelical or has to pander to evangelicals with abortion bans?

He's the type to promote their policies.

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(after roe v wade got overturned and South Carolina was already implementing their own policy

And he still felt it necessary to peakcock extreme cultural conservatism.
Posted by Jake88
Member since Apr 2005
77703 posts
Posted on 7/18/24 at 11:30 am to
No. The left still control media and education and huge investment funds. What you see is a blip.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
464968 posts
Posted on 7/18/24 at 11:34 am to
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The left still control media


I don't know if you've noticed, but the market is speaking about this directly and it's not going so well for far-left content.

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and education

Largely irrelevant with good parenting

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and huge investment funds

Very irrelevant, especially if the culture is shifting (b/c the market would be shifting as well and they control IB like the media, at the end of the day).
Posted by offshoretrash
Farmerville, La
Member since Aug 2008
10713 posts
Posted on 7/18/24 at 11:34 am to
I'm almost 52 years old and I've never seen this many black people support Republicans. If you noticed they have weeded out all the old rhinos and replaced them with younger people that talk about working for the people.
Posted by burke985
UGANDA
Member since Aug 2011
28237 posts
Posted on 7/18/24 at 11:35 am to
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People no longer give a frick about tranny bullshite. They want affordable housing, good pay, and to be left the frick alone.


This
Posted by St Augustine
The Pauper of the Surf
Member since Mar 2006
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Posted on 7/18/24 at 11:38 am to
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I have similar feelings, but difficult to judge how much weight to give them. But if nothing else, I think it has a lot to do with the fact that progressivism is no longer the counter-culture. Progressivism has become "The Man." Conservatism is the counter-culture now. It doesn't matter which side is "The Man." The same dynamic is at play. "The Man" tells you what and how to think. It's human nature to rebel against that.


Great post.
Posted by msudawg1200
Central Mississippi
Member since Jun 2014
10620 posts
Posted on 7/18/24 at 11:39 am to
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When was this too far right pendulum swing?

The 80's? When things were great
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
464968 posts
Posted on 7/18/24 at 11:42 am to
In 2016, it was on its way to being the counter-culture but got de-railed by a few things

1. Legit white supremacists hijacking the term alt-right
2. Charlottesville, which changed everything, especially online (which is where the non-left was winning the culture war bigly)
3. Boomer infiltration, leading to the Q era

You want to know how to stop being cool? Let old people run things.
This post was edited on 7/18/24 at 11:43 am
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