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re: The Right Has Its Own Version of Political Correctness. It’s Just as Stifling.
Posted on 8/5/19 at 8:04 am to AggieHank86
Posted on 8/5/19 at 8:04 am to AggieHank86
In addition, the author is basically complaining because conservatives are expressing their opinions on the PC culture of the left. And he calls the mere opinions of conservatives "patriotic political correctness" to try and equate the liberal safe space PC culture. Basically, he's saying the opinions of those that don't care for SJW/liberal PC, is bad. He is saying it is bad, because they lost the election.
I say again, it is a bullshite article and written by a guy with an axe to grind.
I say again, it is a bullshite article and written by a guy with an axe to grind.
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Posted on 8/5/19 at 8:05 am to AggieHank86
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Cato .. liberal.
Cato reposted the article from WASHINGTON POST, genius.
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This article appeared in Washington Post on December 7, 2016.
This post was edited on 8/5/19 at 8:06 am
Posted on 8/5/19 at 8:05 am to BugAC
quote:Agree with his point, or disagree with it. I don’t really care. I was responding to the (multiple) posters who have all MISSTATED his pointquote:And his point is completely false.
The point raised in the OP and the article referenced in the OP is that people feel compelled not only to “join“ but also to “join in in a very specific tone” for fear of being ostracized if they do not do so.
Posted on 8/5/19 at 8:07 am to BugAC
quote:fair enough, but
Cato reposted the article from WASHINGTON POST
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Alex Nowrasteh is the director of immigration studies at the Cato Institute’s Center for Global Liberty and Prosperity.
This post was edited on 8/5/19 at 8:40 am
Posted on 8/5/19 at 8:07 am to AggieHank86
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you folks continue to miss the point. It is not about you choosing to express yourself. Express yourself to your hearts content. The point raised in the OP and the article referenced in the OP is that people feel compelled not only to “join“ but also to “join in in a very specific tone” for fear of being ostracized if they do not do so. This is the very nature of “politically correct” speech
The thing that lefties seem to miss though, is that conservatives love for the lefties to be able to express their opinions, then go to our corner to discuss what is said by them. That's the part that progressives hate: Their opinions being dismantled by a thinktank of folks with opposing opinions. The OP clearly demonstrates this. fear.
Posted on 8/5/19 at 8:07 am to AggieHank86
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The point raised in the OP and the article referenced in the OP is that people feel compelled not only to “join“ but also to “join in in a very specific tone” for fear of being ostracized if they do not do so.
Oh yeah muh hank, we fear being ostracized, that's why conservatives believe in the Constitution, Bill of Rights and what the founding fathers had to say. Damn, you are really stupid and don't have a bit of common sense
Posted on 8/5/19 at 8:08 am to AggieHank86
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Agree with his point, or disagree with it. I don’t really care
Well why don't you give your opinions on the matter, than sitting on the sideline, afraid to comment because then you'd have to defend yourself?
Posted on 8/5/19 at 8:09 am to Ted2010
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I’m sure the comments here that follow below will in no way prove the author’s thesis.
Google says:
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Thesis statements must make a claim or argument.
They are not statements of fact.
Again,
Posted on 8/5/19 at 8:15 am to Ted2010
Bottom line.
Conservatives didn't show up to Hillary events trying to prevent her from being able to speak and if one counts up the times this has happened to ANY liberal speaker vs conservative, you'd have fingers left over for the former and you'd count until you passed out for the latter
Conservatives haven't created an environment where if a liberal wants to speak on a college campus, they need massive security protection to the point that universities claim they can't even afford to provide it.
No conservative professor in any public university could ever HOPE to say, "black men are the primary problem in America and something needs to be done about them" and keep his job.
Company, govt and especially military EO programs could fit EVERY LAST ONE of the EO complaints they've ever taken action on where the the perp was a minority and the victim was a white person, especially white man.........in one file drawer in DC with room left for more.
Yes. We get it. Morons can run around and find a few, "but look here" examples.
Anyone thinking we are talking about similar scope or degree is just fricking dishonest to their core.
Conservatives didn't show up to Hillary events trying to prevent her from being able to speak and if one counts up the times this has happened to ANY liberal speaker vs conservative, you'd have fingers left over for the former and you'd count until you passed out for the latter
Conservatives haven't created an environment where if a liberal wants to speak on a college campus, they need massive security protection to the point that universities claim they can't even afford to provide it.
No conservative professor in any public university could ever HOPE to say, "black men are the primary problem in America and something needs to be done about them" and keep his job.
Company, govt and especially military EO programs could fit EVERY LAST ONE of the EO complaints they've ever taken action on where the the perp was a minority and the victim was a white person, especially white man.........in one file drawer in DC with room left for more.
Yes. We get it. Morons can run around and find a few, "but look here" examples.
Anyone thinking we are talking about similar scope or degree is just fricking dishonest to their core.
This post was edited on 8/5/19 at 8:17 am
Posted on 8/5/19 at 8:15 am to Ted2010
Great. More tribalism. More “I’m right!’’....”no, I’m right because my side says so!”
It’s exhausting and accomplishes zero.
It’s exhausting and accomplishes zero.
Posted on 8/5/19 at 8:19 am to BugAC
quote:Are you seriously arguing that I am afraid to state my opinions? That is (forgive me) totally fricking insane.quote:Well why don't you give your opinions on the matter, than sitting on the sideline, afraid to comment because then you'd have to defend yourself?
Agree with his point, or disagree with it. I don’t really care
I think the author of the OpEd raises some interesting issues and presents an interesting premise. I do not feel strongly about his conclusions, one way or the other. I think they have some merit, but are perhaps overstated to some extent.
The PREMISE is:
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Insufficient displays of patriotism among the patriotically correct can result in exclusion from public life and ruined careers.
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Every group has implicit rules against certain opinions, actions and language as well as enforcement mechanisms — and the patriotically correct are no exception. But they are different because they are near-uniformly unaware of how they are hewing to a code of speech and conduct similar to the PC lefties they claim to oppose.
This post was edited on 8/5/19 at 8:26 am
Posted on 8/5/19 at 8:24 am to AggieHank86
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I think the author of the OpEd raises some interesting issues and presents an interesting premise.
Oh come on. It's a silly premise.
It's a "oh look, they do it too" that is roughly similar to punching 200 people and then seeing one guy from the other side punch back and screaming......."see, I told you!!"
In scope and degree, this is like comparing elephants to mice. And frankly, it's not even that close.
This post was edited on 8/5/19 at 8:25 am
Posted on 8/5/19 at 8:28 am to Ted2010
All of this is true.
I will say this, as a Libertarian, I generally tend to piss both sides off. With that said, the only social media people that have defriended or blocked me have been leftists.
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The patriotically correct rightly ridicule PC “safe spaces” but promptly retreat to Breitbart or talk radio, where they can have mutually reinforcing homogeneous temper tantrums while complaining about the lack of intellectual diversity on the left.
I will say this, as a Libertarian, I generally tend to piss both sides off. With that said, the only social media people that have defriended or blocked me have been leftists.
Posted on 8/5/19 at 8:34 am to Ted2010
this is what we call "lobbing grenades".
NOT wanting to fly a Mexican/Argentinian/Armenian flag over US government buildings is a bad thing?
suck it up, buttercup.
NOT wanting to fly a Mexican/Argentinian/Armenian flag over US government buildings is a bad thing?
suck it up, buttercup.
Posted on 8/5/19 at 8:35 am to Ted2010
That is the nature of a debate. Both sides attempt to nullify or discredit the others position. The audience decides. The problem today is the Moderators are cutting off the mic for the right. That is unfair and will result in violence.
Violence from the left because their perception is that their view is correct and accepted and should be applied, but the reality is their view will never be implemented anywhere the right is majority.
Violence from the right because their voice is being labelled as evil and silenced and there is great fear that the loss of the whole will be the result.
Desperation and anger lead to unthinkable acts.
Without free speech and the marketplace of ideas, no matter how vile you may think some may be, this society will not survive.
The problem is that some have decided that because they know their ideas will not win they would rather see it all burn down and start over.
Violence from the left because their perception is that their view is correct and accepted and should be applied, but the reality is their view will never be implemented anywhere the right is majority.
Violence from the right because their voice is being labelled as evil and silenced and there is great fear that the loss of the whole will be the result.
Desperation and anger lead to unthinkable acts.
Without free speech and the marketplace of ideas, no matter how vile you may think some may be, this society will not survive.
The problem is that some have decided that because they know their ideas will not win they would rather see it all burn down and start over.
Posted on 8/5/19 at 8:40 am to Ted2010
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the ridicule or whatever can serve to shite down debate
Without ridicule, the radical left loses (at least what they perceive to be) their most effective weapon. It’s straight out of Alinsky.
Posted on 8/5/19 at 8:45 am to DocSavage
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DocSavage
You are dead on.
The left argues that allowing certain speech causes violence.
They literally have it backwards!
Free speech is an inoculation AGAINST violence. And, I don't just mean "free speech" as in, "no govt penalties". I mean as in genuinely VALUING it and protecting it.
Posted on 8/5/19 at 8:55 am to AggieHank86
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I think the author of the OpEd raises some interesting issues and presents an interesting premise. I do not feel strongly about his conclusions, one way or the other. I think they have some merit, but are perhaps overstated to some extent.
Explain
Posted on 8/5/19 at 8:58 am to BugAC
quote:While I did find the OP interesting, I did not find it adequately interesting tp spend a great deal of additional time discussing the matter.quote:Explain
I think the author of the OpEd raises some interesting issues and presents an interesting premise. I do not feel strongly about his conclusions, one way or the other. I think they have some merit, but are perhaps overstated to some extent.
In short, I think the phenomenon is real. I also think it is overstated in the article. Shorty raises some valid points with regard to that observation.
The most interesting point is found in the final paragraph. For the most part, the conservatives who practiced this “patriotic correctness“ do not even seem to realize that they are doing so.
This post was edited on 8/5/19 at 9:07 am
Posted on 8/5/19 at 9:06 am to Ted2010
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