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Posted on 3/28/26 at 9:40 am to Roaad
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How many did either have the authority to close?
All of them considering it's Congress.
Would being president of one party help you get all of them on your side? Yeah if you are a democrat. Neither Paul has ever shown to rally the entire Republican base. So, the answer is as president he'd still need Congress.
This post was edited on 3/28/26 at 9:41 am
Posted on 3/28/26 at 10:13 am to Roaad
That's a graph of which party held the White House, but the White House doesn't dictate budgets. All spending originates in the House.
That said, a President can have influence over budgets (especially if their party also controls the House). When you look at it in that fuller context you'll see that while there is room for both parties to point fingers at each other, they are both to blame and that finger-pointing is nothing but a distraction to keep people from focusing on them both at the same time.
Here's an example:
Since 1970 the Democrats have controlled the House for 38 years while the Republicans have controlled it for only 18.
Meanwhile, Democrat controlled Houses have approved ~$19.5T in deficit spending while the GOP has presided over ~$14T.
When you break that down, Democrats average around $526B in deficit spending per year while the GOP averages $777B.
So Democrats have created more debt just by holding the House longer, but the GOP averages more deficit spending per year over the period.
It also depends on where you put your time limit. Going back to FY 2000, the Dems have held the House 1/2 as long as the GOP but have presided over about 2x the amount of deficit spending.
All of this is to just reinforce the point that it's both parties and trying to break it down to making a single party accountable is a waste of time.
That said, a President can have influence over budgets (especially if their party also controls the House). When you look at it in that fuller context you'll see that while there is room for both parties to point fingers at each other, they are both to blame and that finger-pointing is nothing but a distraction to keep people from focusing on them both at the same time.
Here's an example:
Since 1970 the Democrats have controlled the House for 38 years while the Republicans have controlled it for only 18.
Meanwhile, Democrat controlled Houses have approved ~$19.5T in deficit spending while the GOP has presided over ~$14T.
When you break that down, Democrats average around $526B in deficit spending per year while the GOP averages $777B.
So Democrats have created more debt just by holding the House longer, but the GOP averages more deficit spending per year over the period.
It also depends on where you put your time limit. Going back to FY 2000, the Dems have held the House 1/2 as long as the GOP but have presided over about 2x the amount of deficit spending.
All of this is to just reinforce the point that it's both parties and trying to break it down to making a single party accountable is a waste of time.
Posted on 3/28/26 at 10:23 am to beerJeep
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Debt will never be fixed without massive cuts to Medicare, Medicaid, social security, and all welfare programs (normal, corporate, tax breaks, subsidies, etc) are massively cut back or killed outright.
Doing so is political suicide.
Therefore, debt will never be fixed.
sure it will. It's just that you're going to HATE the fix.
Posted on 3/28/26 at 10:29 am to tide06
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Well it’s totally different because democrat politicians are often pedos
They say the same thing about republicans & have just as many receipts lol.
Posted on 3/28/26 at 10:34 am to beerJeep
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Debt will never be fixed without massive cuts to Medicare, Medicaid, social security, and all welfare programs (normal, corporate, tax breaks, subsidies, etc) are massively cut back or killed outright.
Doing so is political suicide.
Therefore, debt will never be fixed.
All that.
Why try to fix something (and get kicked out of office) when you kids can just inherit the problem!!!
Posted on 3/28/26 at 10:48 am to DeathByTossDive225
Did you read my second paragraph or…?
Posted on 3/28/26 at 10:49 am to Roaad
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"This is because for California to get rescued would be a big cost to red states, & I think it creates in the years ahead a lot of tension."
"California's functional bankruptcy is a major risk to the country. & I think we need to figure out what we can change to fix it."
How we got here:
"California has a public pension system, & that public pension system retirees have paid into it & they get some benefits out, & the amount that they're owed back out is somewhere between $250 billion - $1 trillion dollars more than has been paid in.
$250 billion to $1 trillion short.
If it was the federal government, it would be like, okay, we'll just print more money. California doesn't have the ability to print money, so California has to pay this out, and you can't restructure retirement benefits.
There is a Supreme Court case in California that said that once an employee has been offered retirement benefits, even if they're currently an employee, you can never restructure their retirement benefits.
It has to stay forever, and the state cannot declare bankruptcy. There's no way for the state to functionally declare bankruptcy. There's no law to allow it. No state has ever declared bankruptcy, and the retirement benefits sit senior to the bonds in California.
So you have to pay out the retirement benefits before you pay out all the bond holders that have loaned California the money that they use to run all their programs and services."
... then all the red states will say, we're not paying for the bailout, and it would cause a lot of conflict in America. So I don't think people realize how big of a problem this is and what it's gonna drive in the years ahead. So that's my hot take. That's why I'm really worried about California."
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Posted on 3/28/26 at 10:51 am to Iron Lion
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Not one politician gives a frick about spending.
And they care even less about systemic fraud.
Posted on 3/28/26 at 10:51 am to Roaad
Going to war is the get out of budget criticism card. "well we know we were 40 trillion in debt but then we were at war so we couldn't cut spending"
Posted on 3/28/26 at 10:52 am to Roaad
Congress controls the purse. None of them are bothered about paying down the debt or reducing spending
Posted on 3/28/26 at 11:11 am to tide06
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Did you read my second paragraph or…?
Must not have, my bad.
Posted on 3/28/26 at 11:32 am to DeathByTossDive225
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Must not have, my bad.
Believe me, Im fine with sending the pedos to the bottom of the sea like it says in the bible regardless of what party they pretend to be a part of.
Posted on 3/28/26 at 12:26 pm to dgnx6
quote:A single congressman can close down agencies?
All of them considering it's Congress.
Ron constantly put forth attempts to end the Fed and such.
Posted on 3/28/26 at 12:29 pm to Diego Ricardo
I will take the REPS every time!!!! Common sense rules!
Posted on 3/28/26 at 12:34 pm to Narax
I love this, but name the last war a democrat started..I will hang up and listen.
Posted on 3/28/26 at 12:52 pm to Roaad
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The Republicans are very concerned about the national debt
No, they aren't... but we the people are the ones that cast votes and put them in the position of power. We the people need to elect better congressional representation.
Posted on 3/28/26 at 1:57 pm to Average_Comments
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I love this, but name the last war a democrat started..I will hang up and listen.
Syria - Obama
Posted on 3/28/26 at 2:24 pm to Roaad
I tell my kids that there are two types of political liars.
1) moderate democrats during the election
2) fiscal Republicans during the election
Don't make a voting decision on either.
1) moderate democrats during the election
2) fiscal Republicans during the election
Don't make a voting decision on either.
Posted on 3/28/26 at 2:26 pm to Roaad
Trump spent more in 4 years than Obama did in 8 
No wonder he’s a fan of bankruptcy laws and protections.
No wonder he’s a fan of bankruptcy laws and protections.
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